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Indeed.
With the Master Sword? After he tanked a castle bust.
Yes, Link can survive all of those things.
You seem upset.
Now then, you can try to prove your case with feats, or I'll get the .gifs again. Debate properly and I'll be civil, waste my time and you'll go back to being my toy for super happy fun time.
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Not relevant, but interesting: Did you know a thrown baseball has more energy than a fired bullet? Well, it turns out that mass has a big effect on this kind of thing. More than speed, really, up to a certain point.
Still, Ganondorf is stronger, and indeed more massive than Russell is. That more than counters Russell's speed, even if Ganondorf wasn't just a fast.
One axe plus three cannons definitely sets a precedent. Toonforce is a copout, you can't deny that Link was fired out of a cannon at the ground and your only argument is that all of Zeldaverse is immune to cannons. Link being damaged outside of cutscenes is non-canon gameplay, but do you want to discuss the fact that it would take Russell over 48 hits to remove Link's 24 hearts?
"It's more effective against evil" is not a hyperbolic statement.
Ganondorf wins, obviously, after Midna hit him and destroyed the castle.
So Voldemort is being kept alive through magic. He dies when the magic is cut off (When Negini, the last horcrux, is killed.) That fits the definition of undead that you gave me, does it not?
Alternatively, "Ganondorf acquired a way to live forever through magic. Triforce of Power."
See, by your own definition, either both Ganondorf and Voldemort are undead, or neither is. You're going to have to pick one.
Not quite. Ganondorf supplied power to Zant, a single Twili, and that power was explicit different from Twilight magic as described by Zelda.
"What binds him is a different magic than what transformed him when he first crossed the veil of Twilight. It is an evil power."
Ganondorf is evil power, the Fused Shadows are Twili magic. And we see for a fact that Ganondorf did not resist Twili magic in the form of the Mirror of Twilight 100 years ago, his resistance to the Fused Shadows in the present outright shows that his magic resistance has improved dramatically. And so it also proves he's immune to Marnie's magic.
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Both play a hand in this. We've seen Russell's strength easily stop moving cars and unlike Link he doesn't need to increase his own weight in order to do so.
He isn't faster nor is he stronger IMO. Russell doesn't need a sword to rip through flesh but it seems Dorf does. No, it doesn't. Russell has slap killing powerful vampire strength.
The cannon is a looney tune feat which is different there. It's a ride not designed to kill. You fans take it out of context. This isn't the game and Russell only needs one attack to kill him. Link isn't invulnerable nor do you have any proof he is.
I never contested that aspect of it.
We don't know what happens but ultimately Dorf does win. Midna might have fallen and sprained her ankle.
Voldemort made himself immortal by splitting up his soul whereas magic keeps the wound from being fatal. Completely different.
He did not live forever though. He was soundly defeated in this game every time he showed up.
Apples and oranges.
That power backed him. That is indisputable. We have never seen the Twili magic used against Dorf in this manner then say by fused shadows. Midna failed.
He is just more formidable than Midna is all. She might have even provided her own downfall. We simply don't know.
Russell's car feat isn't very impressive considering its context. It wasn't going very fast and is not nearly as heavy as a Goron. Russell tipping the car up on its front tires, however, is a bit better. On the other hand, we've also seen Link toss around blocks of solid ice much larger than a car, and Wolf Link did stop Beast Ganon without boots.
Ganondorf made a Sage explode by grabbing him. A bit more impressive than a slap-decapitation. If Ganondorf hit Russell there would be vampire chunks flying everywhere. It'd be a real mess. Recall that Link blocks that kind of strength with ease.
So? It still happened and whether it is toony or not is irrelevant given the sheer consistency of Link's resilience. You are aware he Link improves over time, yes? Why would 1 attack from Russell kill Link when it would take 48 hits in the game? "This isn't the game"? So what is it, the cutscenes? The ones that have Link being fired out of cannons and tanking axe blows to the face?
Please make up your mind, quanchi, on which version of Link we're using.
For that claim you'll need evidence (Fused Shadow Midna has no ankles.) As it stands, we see Midna's actual attack and the immediate aftermath of Ganondorf winning. That's enough to show he was clearly unharmed by her attack. Do you have anything that disputes this?
Yeah, Voldemort used magic to keep his soul removal from being fatal, as seen when he dies after the magic is cut off. It was keeping him alive, he is undead according to you. I don't recall any vampires having big wounds that don't heal, either.
Nor did Voldemort, what is your point here? Ganondorf remained immortal until the artifact that gave him immortality was removed.
Exactly, Ganondorf's "evil power" (Triforce of Power) and the Twili's magic (Fused Shadows/Mirror of Twilight) cannot be compared the way you are trying to. They are different and required different methods to remove in game.
You know how Link and Ganondorf play magic tennis sometimes? Whether you call it Ganonball or Dead Man's Volley, one thing is made clear: Ganondorf is not fully immune to his own magic. Why then, is he shown to be immune to Twili magic Fused Shadows power? Why, then, was he affected by Twili magic in the form of the Mirror of Twilight a long time ago? The answer is rather simple: Ganondorf gained a great amount of magical resistance over time.
So with that magical resistance, Marnie isn't doing anything to him. In fact, Ganondorf could just possess Marnie. Antonia did, so we know Marnie is vulnerable to possession. Then, Ganondorf's a necromancer, too. He controls Stalfos (skeletons), Redeads (zombies), and his Phantom horsemen. Zant used Ganondorf's power to control an undead creature as powerful as Stallord. Heh, Marnie and the vampires are just Ganondorf's puppets now.
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We don't need to, we know Ganon was hit and that he is unharmed.
No, Link doesn't need Thor's 90's era physique for his physical stats to change. His feats change, and what we're told about how powerful he is changes. That's enough.
Ganon being undead, the world being 'out of balance' being responsible for Ganon's powers (lol), among other things. Glad you are already aware you lie and disregard canon though. Surprisingly self aware of how dishonest you are.
No, I just know that an assault rifle has nothing on 60 tons of angry stone giant in motion trying to crush someone.
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Yeah but he's already dead, a kill spell would leave him in the same state :P
And you can deny the scene all you like. You can deny the tipsy walking, the idiotic behaviour, the jump-clasping at thin air.. but it all happened. And yup, its a brain trick causing physical results, on the level of mob mentality.
Still need to completely see about them, only about 6 eps left til everything will likely be revealed :T
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we don't know that and the impressive part of it was the relative ease in which he palmed it. Link needs the boots in order to do so. Not impressive since its unassisted.
The sage doesn't seem like a physical being. When has Dorf done so to a physical being. Based on him doing this to who ? You have zero examples unlike me.
It isn't designed to kill and is a ride in their shitty realm. He only improves gear, skill wise. He survived an axe shot he isn't über durable.
TP only.
It was a joke. No, we see it doesn't beat him not that he no sold it. Winning and recovering doesn't translate into impervious.
No, since we see that destroying his body kills that part of him. He needs to come back with a new body but can due to Horcruxes. Apples to oranges.
Voldemort was up against far greater odds with years of prep not some dumb kid with courage.
He supplied power to Zant so why would Zants magic hurt or faze him ?
He isn't immune to offensive blasts but the power to transform he is immune to here.
He's dead so he is her puppet. Irony. The only reason Zelda was possessed was due to her being unconscious. You're wrong as usual.
Marnie is never controlled by physical beings and binds the spirit to her.
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