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Samaras gonna pick up cap and smash. Not a hard fight.
Guess you never saw thane in action in ME2, he breaks their necks and disappears. Batman has no knowledge of krogan physiology so he gets torn to shreds. Daredevil can't pinpoint garrus with his head blown off. Dude, op states he has biotics so he wreaks the team.
Not if Samara is fighting someone else, the second Samara uses her biotics she's going to become the biggest threat, if she fights Cap than Green Arrow will phantom zone her ass.

Thane breaks the necks of mooks and canon fodder thugs. In hand to hand Thane would get thrashed by Daredevil, Bats or Cap

You're assuming that Garrus is going to go for Daredevil first, even if he does Daredevil has shown that he can avoid Sniper Fire, close the distance and wreck Garrus in H2H

The Mass Effect team simply does not have the skill or physical stats to compete, Shephard, Thane and Garrus will get brutalized in hand to hand, Grunt and Wrex will go down and Samara, the only threat, will either get one shotted by Cap's shield, blasted into the Phantom Zone by Green Arrow, or shot by Punisher or Black Widow. She can't defend against all 4 of them.

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And yes Pressure Points will work on the Krogans. Batman has used pressure points on Solomon Grundy, who's made of Plant Matter. Both Batman and Daredevil have the ability to tell structural weaknesses which means the Krogans are slim pickins.

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You seem to be forgetting that pretty much half of Shepard's Squad has biotics. None of these comic guys have a defense against that in a forum fight.

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The only one who frequently uses biotics is Samara. We've seen Thane use his biotics to amp himself against Kai Lang. We've never seen Grunt, Wrex or Garrus use Biotics at the same level as Samara

If they all could use biotics at the same level than I'd give it to the Shephard team but it's most likely Thane Grunt Wrex and Shephard are going to go for a direct fight with Garrus sniping and Samara using biotics.

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Sheperd is an Adept in this case, and Adept's use pretty much nothing but Biotics. Wrex despite everything is a Krogan Battlemaster, and you don't gain that title by not using your Biotics. Grunt and Garrus don't have Biotics, but they have tech stuff that's worth mentioning.

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Well...if they use their biotics and have a tech advantage than it's possible for them to win. But Samara still needs to avoid getting BFR'd into the Phantom Zone. \\I'm not saying that Grunt Wrex and Thane won't use biotics, just that they probably won't use biotics like Samara does where they'll force grip the comic team, if they do though than I'd probably give them the nod.

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Ollie just runs around knocking people into the Phantom Zone? He did this alot Pre-DCnU?

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This is his kill method for Krogan's.

Krogan: Top approach, double-strike to eye ridge, slide down between blinded target's rising arms, precision nerve strike to throat, secondary nerve strike to counter blood rage, quad-kick to bend target, grip each side of skull, running leaping spinning neck-snap.


Or you can just knock them out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiWvDEOMCto

5:24 casual Shep walks in a knocks out a Krogan. Then again Wrex/Grunt aren't ordinary krogan but none of the comic heroes are either.

I think biotics keeps ME in the fight but it's not some inatastomp...
Biotic warfare is mostly using barriers and ranged attacks which can be covered or avoided from. The tk feats in Mass Effect are quite lacking.

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Samara tossed that chick across the room like a rag doll in ME2.

That Asari Spectre working for the Shadow Broker did the same to Shepard.

Even Liara threatened to flay someone alive with her Biotics, and it wasn't hyperbole.

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[B]Samara tossed that chick across the room like a rag doll in ME2.


I'm pretty sure this is the only time in Mass Effect did someone do this. And since it's coming from one of the best biotic users in the universe I doubt it's such as easy feat. Jack doesn't even do this, she relies on her force pushes to take out enemies. Using tk would be a lot easier...if she could actually do it.





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That Asari Spectre working for the Shadow Broker did the same to Shepard.


She kicked Shepard with biotics and let gravity do its job.

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Even Liara threatened to flay someone alive with her Biotics, and it wasn't hyperbole.


Well Liara sucks.

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I'm pretty sure this is the only time in Mass Effect did someone do this. And since it's coming from one of the best biotic users in the universe I doubt it's such as easy feat. Jack doesn't even do this, she relies on her force pushes to take out enemies. Using tk would be a lot easier...if she could actually do it.


People use legit TK in Mass Effect aaaaalllll the time and team comic doesn't have a defense against it. And keep in mind Shepard as a Biotic is an L3, but he spikes higher than Kaiden Alenko even though he's an L2 and one of the most powerful human biotics shown. He even tells Shepard he's one of the most powerful Biotics he's ever seen in ME1.


Here at 5:40. Jack uses Biotics to TK both guards into the air, and smash them into glass designed to resist the pressures of space hard enough to crack it and shatter their bones on impact. She can TK just fine.


Here she flings a rather heavy looking chair across the room and like Liara mentions filleting/flaying someone with her biotics. And Joker, while being himself mentions a Biotic fight between Miranda and Jack would tear open the ship's Bulkhead. She can TK just fine.


That's not to say her Biotic Force Waves and other powers aren't useful. KO's or kills 2 fully armored Cerberus soldiers in the very beginning of this vid with a small push. At 18 seconds, she blocks a Cerberus Mech explosive round with no problem. 6:43, she easily blasts through reinforced glass that Shepard with his enhanced cybernetic strength can't get through. Same energy wave knocks Cerberus guys in full armor off the ground and on their ass at least 30 feet away.


Samara at 30 seconds TK grips then flings that chick a good distance with no effort through what is likely reinforced glass.


Samara blasts Morinth across the room and holds her against the glass(reinforced). She was going to push her out into the open air, but Morinth is pretty decent with biotics herself. She also displays tk blasts and she and Morinth in their power struggle pick up several pieces of furniture. And at the end she enhances her punch with enough biotic force to I'm assuming shatter Morinth's skull or splatter her head or something. But the shockwave goes through the room.


Thane shows off his Biotics, and shows that even near death from his disease he can still fight with Kai Leng and sneak up on him. The only reason Kai Leng even survived is because Thane didn't already have his gun out.


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She kicked Shepard with biotics and let gravity do its job.



Starting at around 5:53, she shows enough force to shatter the glass behind her and enough finesse to turn it into a weapon by shooting it at them. Liara puts up a force field. Then at about 10:07, Liara lifts a table and flings it with enough force to send Vasir flying.

- This is just Wrex being badass and cleaning house.

Grunt easily walking off after falling a few stories, and tanking being on fire.



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Well Liara sucks.



Liara flexing her biotics.

-Liara using a singularity at 1:43, then blasts them while they're defenseless. Shepard as a Biotic can use them as well, and as seen, there's no way for team comic to counteract it.

She's pretty awesome. Don't hate.

I stand by my choice for Team Shepard. They take a majority especially with 2 hours prep.

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Batman uses he shield generator on his belt.


Biotics are now useless...

In all seriousness though, Biotics are not nearly the insta-win you make them out to be. They can and have been avoided.

Not to mention characters like Batman, Daredevil, and Cap can take massive beatings. It's going to take far more than just a single smash to take one of them out.

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