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Originally posted by The Scenario
Quanchi's trying to push Link as the most selfless thing in the universe in one thread and a "shitty hero" in a different thread simultaneously.

I'm just pointing out the contradiction.
Link is selfless in his own game but that doesn't mean his degree of selflessness approaches other characters.


Don't be silly.


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Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I think we already crossed skill and power off the list of requirements. We know niceness is not enough. What does superman have that link doesn't?
He beats him in every aspect. He does not beat WW in every aspect.


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Name one aspec. (Sorry, I just like specifics)

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I did not concede. you just asked for me to prove a given.


Link does not kill all his enemies. Killing your opponent doesn't mean greater warrior anwyays. Superman is the greater warrior than Link in terms of skill, magnitude, power, etc.

It's not a given if you cannot prove it. C:

Superman's not a warrior, not like Thor, not like anyone who has been deemed worthy.


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Link kills sentient enemies by the handful, his entire method of operation is to go for the throat in any fight, right away. Find the weak point, exploit it, and kill your enemy. Quick, efficient. Warrior-y.


Not really.

Link goes for the eyes.

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Link does not kill all his enemies. Killing your opponent doesn't mean greater warrior anwyays. Superman is the greater warrior than Link in terms of skill, magnitude, power, etc.


We're not talking about who's the better fighter. We're talking about the state of mind of a warrior. I'm saying Link is likely closer to Thor in personality than Superman is. Superman's the "boy scout," he tries to solve things peacefully at least some of the time. Link does not tend to do that, usually going for violence.


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Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Name one aspec. (Sorry, I just like specifics)
skill.


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Not really.

Link goes for the eyes.



We're not talking about who's the better fighter. We're talking about the state of mind of a warrior. I'm saying Link is likely closer to Thor in personality than Superman is. Superman's the "boy scout," he tries to solve things peacefully at least some of the time. Link does not tend to do that, usually going for violence.
Link can't even speak. Great warriors have failed even from his own Asgardian race.


Again, Link does not beat Superman at everything. Your narrow minded definition is funny too.

Thor doesn't massacre everyone he fights.


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So being Asgardian isn't a prerequisite.

Thor has far less compunction about killing, and relishes battle in a way Superman does not.


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So being Asgardian isn't a prerequisite.

Thor has far less compunction about killing, and relishes battle in a way Superman does not.
Just saying being a warrior is not the determining factor here.


Link goes to battle unlike Thor who loves testing his mettle.

Thor is prideful unlike Nerdball Link.


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Okay. Before all this bullshit got set off, there was a particular theme in this thread that got my attention; narratives. Many of you have referenced how worthiness seems to have such a vague determination, and that it's basically up to the writers. Having said that, Scenario had a valid point pertaining to this. Theoretically, if a Marvel/Nintendo crossover were ever to occur, it would only be thematically appropriate for Link to be able to wield Mjolnir given his mythological makeup and legendary background. Of course, it would probably occur in a similar manner to what Zack stated. He would have to prove himself throughout his journey, which he always does, and he would use it only for as long as he needed to. He did the same with the Master Sword, so it makes perfect that sense he would do it here. I actually plan to write this myself just because it's such a brilliant concept. smile


Btw, Quan, for future reference, a surrender in a debate is not declared until your opponent agrees wholeheartedly with you. You've convinced me of nothing, and you have nothing left to offer. Besides that, you have to convince everyone else here as well. Meanwhile, I'm going to participate in my life (which I actually have) while you keep restating the same illogical anti-boy shit you've been saying since the first page in the hopes of accomplishing nothing. Have fun getting megapwned (as always)! big grin Call me when you actually have something to prove.

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Just saying being a warrior is not the determining factor here.


Link goes to battle unlike Thor who loves testing his mettle.

Thor is prideful unlike Nerdball Link.
You think being prideful is a prerequisite? That's odd, since Thor wasn't worthy of wielding it until he proved his ability to be humble and enact self sacrifice.


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Quit posting to surrender over and over again.


Making up imaginary crossovers where Link is worthy is all you people have.


Link breaks his arms.


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Link is the hero of his universe, he's selfless and he's a warrior, he puts others first at his own expense to a fault and he's got a hell of a swing on him.

Odds are he lifts it, completes he quest, returns it to where he found it. A lot like what happens in aLttP.


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You think being prideful is a prerequisite? That's odd, since Thor wasn't worthy of wielding it until he proved his ability to be humble and enact self sacrifice.


Qualities Thor and Link share. big grin Provide new evidence to prove otherwise. I'm pretty sure thematic similarity is more viable than one's random, unfounded hatred for a character and his entire fandom.

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Okay. Before all this bullshit got set off, there was a particular theme in this thread that got my attention; narratives. Many of you have referenced how worthiness seems to have such a vague determination, and that it's basically up to the writers. Having said that, Scenario had a valid point pertaining to this. Theoretically, if a Marvel/Nintendo crossover were ever to occur, it would only be thematically appropriate for Link to be able to wield Mjolnir given his mythological makeup and legendary background. Of course, it would probably occur in a similar manner to what Zack stated. He would have to prove himself throughout his journey, which he always does, and he would use it only for as long as he needed to. He did the same with the Master Sword, so it makes perfect that sense he would do it here. I actually plan to write this myself just because it's such a brilliant concept. smile


I still think that, even if Beta Ray Bill exists. I mean, what writer would look at Link's background and decide that Link could not wield Mjolnir? He's gone through trials before to wield the Master Sword, he's gone through trials to prove himself worthy of the Triforce of Courage. He's been blessed by numerous gods and goddesses after earning it in some way, whether it be saving them or just generally being a hero. From a narrative perspective, Link and Mjolnir are a perfect match. The Legendary Hero and the Mystical Hammer? C'mon, guys.


Also, Sacred, may I ask for a link to this story if you ever do write it?


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I still think that, even if Beta Ray Bill exists. I mean, what writer would look at Link's background and decide that Link could not wield Mjolnir? He's gone through trials before to wield the Master Sword, he's gone through trials to prove himself worthy of the Triforce of Courage. He's been blessed by numerous gods and goddesses after earning it in some way, whether it be saving them or just generally being a hero. From a narrative perspective, Link and Mjolnir are a perfect match. The Legendary Hero and the Mystical Hammer? C'mon, guys.


You can say the same similar things about Superman as well. The fact is, merely being some great hero isn't enough to wield Mjolnir. In truth, I have no clue what is required to lift the hammer.

If someone asked me "can Link lift it" I wouldn't have a clue. But, if push came to shove, I would err on the side that he can't. Simply because so many other great heroes and warriors have failed too as well.

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I'm not sure I recall Superman going through any trials to wield any legendary weapons...

I'm not saying Link can lift Mjolnir just because he's some hero. I'm saying has specifically been proven wield of a lot of things that require their user to be worthy of them. Link proving his worth is a huge part of every game featuring the Master Sword, and a large part of several that don't. The Triforce of Courage can choose any host, but it goes to him. Twili gods and Fairy Queens have deemed him worthy of their power.

I'm afraid I just don't see why that kind of history doesn't count for anything. A lot of great heroes have failed, sure. How many have been deemed worthy of other legendary weapons?


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Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link is the hero of his universe, he's selfless and he's a warrior, he puts others first at his own expense to a fault and he's got a hell of a swing on him.

Odds are he lifts it, completes he quest, returns it to where he found it. A lot like what happens in aLttP.
His universe is shit compared to the dc universe. He also doesn't have the noble souls and heroic competition that Superman has in his or any marvel hero has either.

Nah. Cannot lift a hammer in which Superman beats him comfortably in every single category.


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Qualities Thor and Link share. big grin Provide new evidence to prove otherwise. I'm pretty sure thematic similarity is more viable than one's random, unfounded hatred for a character and his entire fandom.
Thor is a far greater hero and actually far superior in every way than Link is as well.


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So.. Cap canonly lifts it?


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