Saw it last night, have really mixed feelings about it. I guess overall I'd say it was alright.
But there were bits I really liked, bits I absolutely hated, and bits which were just fine.
Alfleck was good as Batman/Bruce Wayne, Jeremy Irons was great as Alfred and their dynamic was pretty fun. Wonder Woman was also pretty great, although she really didn't have much to do.
Cavill was alright I guess, but once again is basically given nothing to do. His Superman is still basically a blank slate.
I didn't hate Lex in it, at least for the first half, I mean it wasn't the Luthor we've been used to for awhile but I didn't mind that. But then about half way through or so it just goes of the deep end as was a bit of a mess.
It looked good, visually, but I mean that was the one thing I wasn't worried about. I mean Snyder has many flaws but he knows how to make stuff look pretty.
It was also way too long, but still felt as if it was missing a bunch of stuff, which I think was just poor storytelling really. Scenes just kind of happen throughout it with no real connections, so it feels really really eclectic and jumpy.
The Justice League cameo things were so hamfisted it was painful. Like people complain that Iron Man 2 tried to hard to set stuff up for the future, but jesus this makes that look like an exercise in subtlety.
Stuff I hated was mainly [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Batman killing people. Seriously, for all the flack MoS took about Superman and how they try to address it in this and emphasis 'your not a killer' etc, they then do the exact same thing but worse with a character for who not killing is as if not more important than for Superman. He was a bit like the Punisher here and I hated that. It just seems to show once again that they don't really care about the characters. I mean, if in Nolan's 'realistic' trilogy you can uphold the no killing, there's no reason to have it here. It's completely against what Batman should be...
The actual plot felt like a bit of a mess. Like, bits of it just didn't make any sense if you thought about it for more than 5 seconds. But yeah, there seemed to be bits of 3 or so really good movies spread throughout this, yet it just didn't work as one cohesive film. It also tried to do these big dramatic character moments or scenes near the end that just felt completely undeserved because there was nothing leading up to them. And there were things that were just glossed over that should really be important things ie [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Everyone just finding out each others identity with no real fanfare or weight to it. Like, those should be important scenes and moments. Especially problematic when you realize there's now a Lex Luthor that knows everyone's identities, which unless they kill him in JL or something, is gonna be strange going forwards.
Also the ending was just not good. Like, at all.
Overall, really mixed feelings for a really mixed film. But good god I hope they make the next films more upbeat. There's really a limit to how much dark and gloomy and brooding Justice League I can take at this point.
Thought the movie was pretty good it did have some weird plot items and odd characterizations. A big difference between DC and Marvel is the blend of humor that Marvel can mix with its movies that is why a movie like GOTG did so well. Also Marvel took there time the build up there movies before the Avengers.
I'm glad the movie did well at the box office. If the movie is as meh as people say, at least WB can correct the future movies. I'll be seeing it tomorrow.
Just saw a morning showing in 3D. I'm not sure what the critics and some of the people here are griping about. The movie was exactly what it advertised. It wasn't the best comic book movie I've seen, but I give it a solid B grade, or 3/4 stars. I liked it as much as Age of Ultron, TDKR, Cap 1, X Men DotFP. There were some loose ends in the plot, most of the movie was dark and gritty, and there were some slow spots. But it at least met my expectations.
No one else think they ruined Batman by making him an utter idiotic dick in the main fight setup?
No spoilers, because I've spoiled nothing, it's called BvS after all.
The film was good, maybe even 7/10, up until the fight proper. At which point it just pushed Batman's characterisation into the toilet.
This was basically DC's Punisher, a great low-level anti-hero, up against something he just doesn't have the breadth of vision to appreciate.
Luthor also seemed more like Marvel's The MadThinker, than Lex.
I've always disliked this version of Lois, Perry was a bit of a **** too (poor characterisation) and WW should have been more integral, she seems to have been a very good piece of casting and an intriguing character.
Batfleck was a grumpy ****, which worked in parts, but felt wooden and his emotional reason for the animus against Superman was childish and seriously out of character for Batman.
Overall a 7/10 movie for 3/5ths of the time and a 5/10 for the rest. Disappointing.
Yah. A lot of us feel that way. It's a real shame.
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I was mostly shocked with the over the top way they ruined Bruce and Batman's characterisation. And I'm not even talking about the violence (though that plays a part).
This is supposed to be a mastermind strategist and tactician. Not someone that turns emo and stupid because of a tragedy.
Tbf Warner Bros has never got that right in the Batman movies.
I want to see the tactician, the escape artist, the master of disguise, the spy, the ninja, the detective- All ways he can actually look good even in front of Superman.
But all they keep giving us is - Look he's really tough and has cool toys.
1st of all, they showed most of the good stuff during all those teaser trailers (I remember thinking that them showing all those juicy scenes was a bad sign)...
2nd, there were plot holes galore; I wont reveal any spoilers for those that have not seen it yet, but Snyder had plot holes big enough to drive an 18 wheeler through....very sloppy work.
3rd, Batman did stuff that was completely out of character; those that have seen the movie already know exactly what I mean by this...
I could go on and on and on, but I dont want to spoil anything, so I'll stop here...
But once again, very disappointing movie; there are some bright spots, but not nearly enough to cover up everything Snyder did wrong here...
The acting is fine; I blame this movies failure completely and utterly upon Snyder...he screwed the pooch.
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