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they contributed squat. Having them kill aliens which were limitless is dumb. Captain American site did something; he ordered police officers and instructed them on how to evacuate civilians. Cuz you know! Officers have no clue what to do, but cap who was frozen in ice for decades had more common sense than trained POs lol.

Whatever they did was next to nothing. They contributed nothing to ending the fight/war


Black Widow closed the portal, got Loki to spill his beans etc. She was surprisingly useful tbh. She basically did what Batman would in a JL movie.

Captain America was the tactically commander of the Avengers in the field, directing them. He was also IIRC focusing on helping save and evacuating the civilians on ground level.

Hawkeye was pretty useless tbh but he did help out with Loki and bottle necking the troops.


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Captain America: Tactically sound field commander and leader. Formed the general battle plan which minimized damage and loss of life. Also had prior experience dealing with the Tessarect and had combat experience and stats capable of enabling him to briefly hold his own against Loki and son Chitauri.

Black Widow: Espionage agent. Successfully manipulated Loki, who had in turn manipulated everyone else, into finding out about his plans. Aided in rescue and extraction of civilians and ultimately shut down the portal with Selvig's help.

Hawkeye: Sharpshooter. Helped with rescue and extraction of civilians. Also worked as Iron Man's spotter.

Everyone on the team contributed on some level besides Hulk/Thor/Iron Man beating ass and take names.


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Where did you hear that? I've been following along and I haven't heard that they will make solo movies first.


It was Henry Cavill's opinion and the impression I had was that the opinion was shared by Synder and Goyer. Of course they don't make the final decisions, but I agree with them.

There should at least be a Wonder Woman solo movie before moving on to JLA Imho. And the WW movie should be of decent quality of course.

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It was Henry Cavill's opinion and the impression I had was that the opinion was shared by Synder and Goyer. Of course they don't make the final decisions, but I agree with them.

There should at least be a Wonder Woman solo movie before moving on to JLA Imho. And the WW movie should be of decent quality of course.


So far, it's only been Cavil's opinion and that doesn't mean anything. They might do a WW solo movie first, but that's pretty much it. Too soon for a GL reboot.


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Doubt it. A lot of people seem to have a general knowledge of who Flash is.


True but for the average moviegoer I have seen that Marvel is shown in a more positive light than DC. Like for example IM2 is considered a terrible movie yet gets a pass by most people.

I would say most people agree MoS is a better movie yet you get a lot of critique along with a lot of praise. Nolan's Batman films aren't without their critique either while the likes of Thor or the Hulk just get by.

If Marvel makes it seem like DC is copying them then the masses will believe it. I mean imagine if they chose Darkseid as the main villain and the outrage from fake nerds.

Which is why Wonder Woman would have been a perfect, perfect choice.

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BTW, I don't think this has been talked about but

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Warner Bros. Closing Massive Financing Deal With Dune to Replace Legendary


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...inancing-582274


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If Marvel makes it seem like DC is copying them then the masses will believe it. I mean imagine if they chose Darkseid as the main villain and the outrage from fake nerds.

Which is why Wonder Woman would have been a perfect, perfect choice.


I don't think they should worry about being seen as copying Marvel. World's Finest is certainly a different direction they're taking already, and the fact is just because Marvel is the first one to do the shared Universe on the big screen, doesn't mean nobody can follow them.

Heck Bryan Singer's made it perfectly clear he's trying to copy that formula for the X-Universe.

Also it would be pretty dumb for people to believe Flash is a copy of Quicksilver just because they're both super fast. Heck that's like saying people will think Quicksilver's power is just a copy of Superman's speed, or a copy of the kid in "Incredibles."

Anyway I don't think there's any official word on which DC Superhero will come next. I agree with you that Wonder Woman is more important.


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So far, it's only been Cavil's opinion and that doesn't mean anything. They might do a WW solo movie first, but that's pretty much it. Too soon for a GL reboot.


I'm almost certain Goyer said something similar, so it seems to be the opinion going around on the MOS set.

Agree there's no point in a GL reboot anytime soon. He's had his chance for now. It's not the end of the world. Hulk didn't do well in his solo movie but the character still worked really well in Avengers.

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I don't think they should worry about being seen as copying Marvel. World's Finest is certainly a different direction they're taking already, and the fact is just because Marvel is the first one to do the shared Universe on the big screen, doesn't mean nobody can follow them.

Heck Bryan Singer's made it perfectly clear he's trying to copy that formula for the X-Universe.

Also it would be pretty dumb for people to believe Flash is a copy of Quicksilver just because they're both super fast. Heck that's like saying people will think Quicksilver's power is just a copy of Superman's speed, or a copy of the kid in "Incredibles."

Anyway I don't think there's any official word on which DC Superhero will come next. I agree with you that Wonder Woman is more important.




I'm almost certain Goyer said something similar, so it seems to be the opinion going around on the MOS set.

Agree there's no point in a GL reboot anytime soon. He's had his chance for now. It's not the end of the world. Hulk didn't do well in his solo movie but the character still worked really well in Avengers.


So far, I've only heard Cavil, but Goyer could have said it too. Doesn't matter though. They're not in charge.


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Rushing straight into a JLA film would be a mess. We need a WW and Flash film first.


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Rushing straight into a JLA film would be a mess. We need a WW and Flash film first.


Not if they draw out the movie and introduce some of the other stars in sequels.


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It's going to be hellish telling a good team story and establishing 3-4 actual people as heroes that would be capable of carrying their own movie.

This isn't like Hawkeye and Widow.


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Exactly, the can do it to one or two (preferably Aquaman and John Stewart) but any more than that and I can't see the film turning out well.


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I don't think they should worry about being seen as copying Marvel. World's Finest is certainly a different direction they're taking already, and the fact is just because Marvel is the first one to do the shared Universe on the big screen, doesn't mean nobody can follow them.

Heck Bryan Singer's made it perfectly clear he's trying to copy that formula for the X-Universe.

Also it would be pretty dumb for people to believe Flash is a copy of Quicksilver just because they're both super fast. Heck that's like saying people will think Quicksilver's power is just a copy of Superman's speed, or a copy of the kid in "Incredibles."

Anyway I don't think there's any official word on which DC Superhero will come next. I agree with you that Wonder Woman is more important.




I'm almost certain Goyer said something similar, so it seems to be the opinion going around on the MOS set.

Agree there's no point in a GL reboot anytime soon. He's had his chance for now. It's not the end of the world. Hulk didn't do well in his solo movie but the character still worked really well in Avengers.


I do think Marvel is trying to beat DC with on screening characters like Quicksilver, Ultron, and Thanos. Flash is well known but even he doesn't have a live action flick yet. So Marvel pushing out Quicksilver would make it look less like Marvel is copying Flash when a Flash movie comes out. Then there's Ultron in Avengers 2. I can't help but think Marvel wanted switch Thanos for Ultron to get his name out before DC decides to bring Brainiac on the big screen. All the talk you here of them wanting to tell a good story; I can't help but think their other agenda is to establish their heroes to become house hold names like DC did for Supes, WW, Flash, Aquaman, and Batman.


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Female lead action films tend not to do very well at the box-office and let's face it that does matter so Wonder Woman would be hard to pull off. Maybe doing it on the small screen would work better.


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Female lead action films tend not to do very well at the box-office and let's face it that does matter so Wonder Woman would be hard to pull off. Maybe doing it on the small screen would work better.


Having a shitty script doesn't also help.


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I do think Marvel is trying to beat DC with on screening characters like Quicksilver, Ultron, and Thanos. Flash is well known but even he doesn't have a live action flick yet. So Marvel pushing out Quicksilver would make it look less like Marvel is copying Flash when a Flash movie comes out. Then there's Ultron in Avengers 2. I can't help but think Marvel wanted switch Thanos for Ultron to get his name out before DC decides to bring Brainiac on the big screen. All the talk you here of them wanting to tell a good story; I can't help but think their other agenda is to establish their heroes to become house hold names like DC did for Supes, WW, Flash, Aquaman, and Batman.



If Marvel is trying to get these things done on the big screen before WB/DC, then WB/DC are making it really easy for them given their speed at getting on with superhero movies (minus Superman and Batman).

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Female lead action films tend not to do very well at the box-office and let's face it that does matter so Wonder Woman would be hard to pull off. Maybe doing it on the small screen would work better.


Pretty much this. If they want to make it work, they'd have to involve the gods from the get go and give her some good supporting characters. They should have Ares as her first villain to boost the movie.


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Female lead action films tend not to do very well at the box-office and let's face it that does matter so Wonder Woman would be hard to pull off. Maybe doing it on the small screen would work better.


But they can and have worked. Just look at the Hunger Games, Aliens, or even the Terminator films. Or, heck, look at the reception at Faora. I really think a Wonder Woman would do great if they had a good script. Plus, there is the simple fact that super hero film draws in a different audience from typical action films.


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Female lead action films tend not to do very well at the box-office and let's face it that does matter so Wonder Woman would be hard to pull off. Maybe doing it on the small screen would work better.


Because no one's given them a try and in the exceptions that they actually do, they don't put effort into it.

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It's not about being female; it's about being good.

Movies with female leads work. Wonder Woman can work. They just need to not make it shit. Make it about her meeting Steve Trevor and fighting Greek Gods, and you've got a winner imo.


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