Captain America: Tactically sound field commander and leader. Formed the general battle plan which minimized damage and loss of life. Also had prior experience dealing with the Tessarect and had combat experience and stats capable of enabling him to briefly hold his own against Loki and son Chitauri.
Black Widow: Espionage agent. Successfully manipulated Loki, who had in turn manipulated everyone else, into finding out about his plans. Aided in rescue and extraction of civilians and ultimately shut down the portal with Selvig's help.
Hawkeye: Sharpshooter. Helped with rescue and extraction of civilians. Also worked as Iron Man's spotter.
Everyone on the team contributed on some level besides Hulk/Thor/Iron Man beating ass and take names.
True but for the average moviegoer I have seen that Marvel is shown in a more positive light than DC. Like for example IM2 is considered a terrible movie yet gets a pass by most people.
I would say most people agree MoS is a better movie yet you get a lot of critique along with a lot of praise. Nolan's Batman films aren't without their critique either while the likes of Thor or the Hulk just get by.
If Marvel makes it seem like DC is copying them then the masses will believe it. I mean imagine if they chose Darkseid as the main villain and the outrage from fake nerds.
Which is why Wonder Woman would have been a perfect, perfect choice.
I don't think they should worry about being seen as copying Marvel. World's Finest is certainly a different direction they're taking already, and the fact is just because Marvel is the first one to do the shared Universe on the big screen, doesn't mean nobody can follow them.
Heck Bryan Singer's made it perfectly clear he's trying to copy that formula for the X-Universe.
Also it would be pretty dumb for people to believe Flash is a copy of Quicksilver just because they're both super fast. Heck that's like saying people will think Quicksilver's power is just a copy of Superman's speed, or a copy of the kid in "Incredibles."
Anyway I don't think there's any official word on which DC Superhero will come next. I agree with you that Wonder Woman is more important.
I'm almost certain Goyer said something similar, so it seems to be the opinion going around on the MOS set.
Agree there's no point in a GL reboot anytime soon. He's had his chance for now. It's not the end of the world. Hulk didn't do well in his solo movie but the character still worked really well in Avengers.
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I do think Marvel is trying to beat DC with on screening characters like Quicksilver, Ultron, and Thanos. Flash is well known but even he doesn't have a live action flick yet. So Marvel pushing out Quicksilver would make it look less like Marvel is copying Flash when a Flash movie comes out. Then there's Ultron in Avengers 2. I can't help but think Marvel wanted switch Thanos for Ultron to get his name out before DC decides to bring Brainiac on the big screen. All the talk you here of them wanting to tell a good story; I can't help but think their other agenda is to establish their heroes to become house hold names like DC did for Supes, WW, Flash, Aquaman, and Batman.
If Marvel is trying to get these things done on the big screen before WB/DC, then WB/DC are making it really easy for them given their speed at getting on with superhero movies (minus Superman and Batman).
Pretty much this. If they want to make it work, they'd have to involve the gods from the get go and give her some good supporting characters. They should have Ares as her first villain to boost the movie.
But they can and have worked. Just look at the Hunger Games, Aliens, or even the Terminator films. Or, heck, look at the reception at Faora. I really think a Wonder Woman would do great if they had a good script. Plus, there is the simple fact that super hero film draws in a different audience from typical action films.
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