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Etherean Fire
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Originally posted by BloodRain
Physically Fae are similar to humans in body.

The powers he brings to this thread are mind reading, teleporting and those light blasts which are strong enough to launch bodies a hundred feet away.


Ok, but I still need to know some things. Is mind reading on a whim, or is I more technical than that? Can the light blasts be deflected, and are they capable of actually killing Duku? I'm not discounting that possibility, but he still needs enough offensive capacity in order to actually stand a chance. Being launched isn't usually a problem for Jedi.


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He'd have to focus on doing so, kinda like Twilight's Edward, and it allows him to hear what the target is thinking at that moment. In this fight he could hear Dooku's thoughts whenever he wishes.

The beam variety, possibly. Wouldn't think the flash/waves could e deflected. I'm not sure if they could kill him. We've seen the second strongest Fae do a strong blast and accidentally hit a normal human, for said human to be launched into a nearby tree. The human was injured but fine afterwards. We've also, as seen in the vid Quan posted earlier, that a strong blast could easily snap through leg-thick branches. That level of attack should be fatal to a human.


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This seems a fairly even fight then. The only problem I'm seeing is that Niall doesn't seem to have much physical contingency or h2h training (that I'm aware of), nor does he seem to have the same killing capacity (assuming this is a fight to the death). However, magic is not the same as the Force, so Duku has no experience dealing with it. Telepathy coupled with teleportation can help Niall avoid whatever Duku has.


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Could be drawn out. If Dooku hits Niall he going to cripple him, while if Niall strikes it won't be as damaging. Advantage Dooku gets here being contended with the telepath/port dodging.


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Advantage Dooku gets here being contended with the telepath/port dodging.


Can't remember that. Could you remind me? (My bad on spelling Dooku wrong, BTW.)


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I'm saying the advantage Dooku has from his attacks doing more while being more durable than Niall, that advantage can be matches with Niall using his telepathy and teleporting to dodge his attacks.


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Right. That's basically where I stand.


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I'm not sure how to judge this. I guess I'll just flip a coin, and whoever loses the toss can suck c**k and die in hell.


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Precog was literally the first thing luke got taught as well as the padwans. We have a quote saying the darkside screws it up. Anny didn't even need precog, obi told him not to jump. He was just an angry little emo who hit his rebellious phase.
Too many instances to ignore. Anakin was hit despite common sense, precog, and Obi saying please don't.


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I'm going to ask for a moderation seat on this forum just to ban Quan for making spite threads
You wouldn't be the first to try.


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Could be drawn out. If Dooku hits Niall he going to cripple him, while if Niall strikes it won't be as damaging. Advantage Dooku gets here being contended with the telepath/port dodging.
Do you honestly think Dooku can block the light attacks from Niall ?


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Depends.

If its the beam variety (like the one that snapped the branch] its possible to link it to other things the Lightsaber can block. The flash (Sookie Vs Russell) and wave (group vs Russell) no, they don't have any form to them.


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What is the killing capacity of the light blasts? The outcome will depend largely on that.


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Painful, dangerous and even fatal to beings weak against light.

On humans a powerful blast is a KO, the strongest beam is that branch snapping. Soo.. force lightning?


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Painful, dangerous and even fatal to beings weak against light.

On humans a powerful blast is a KO, the strongest beam is that branch snapping. Soo.. force lightning?


Well, Jedi aren't exactly weak to light, and they're well beyond typical humans. I guess it would be different with every blast variation. Jedi can usually dust off simply getting tossed around.


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Depends.

If its the beam variety (like the one that snapped the branch] its possible to link it to other things the Lightsaber can block. The flash (Sookie Vs Russell) and wave (group vs Russell) no, they don't have any form to them.
I don't see him able to perceive the attacks either way. If he blocked one I doubt he'd block another. This guy easily owned a decently older vampire while in blitz.


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Well, Jedi aren't exactly weak to light, and they're well beyond typical humans. I guess it would be different with every blast variation. Jedi can usually dust off simply getting tossed around.
Force lightning temporarily ko'd Yoda.


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The blasts are quite fast, as are blasters and F.lightning.

But as Sacred said, being a lot tougher than humans would mean that being hit would be less effective than what its shown to do to humans. While any of Dooku's attacks, Force or Saber, will be fatal.


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Obi Wan got force tossed clear across a pretty big room into a steel railing hard enough to dent it. Then the walkway was dropped on his legs. He was unconscious, but when he got up he was just fine.

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I don't see him able to perceive the attacks either way. If he blocked one I doubt he'd block another. This guy easily owned a decently older vampire while in blitz.


As established, there are some forms of blast he cannot block, but he could still attempt to dodge. Accuracy is not being called into question; lethality is. It won't matter if Dooku is hit by the blasts if they haven't the offensive power to kill him. That's what needs to be determined.


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Force lightning temporarily ko'd Yoda.


Temporarily, and F. Lighting can is potentially lethal. I'm still curious as to how light blasts compare. Could you help me with that?


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