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NotAllThatEvil
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i voted mid herald...

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Originally posted by Sacred 117
I'm still speculative on ranks for Goku and Gogeta. Goku's rank will ultimately determine that.

All right.
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i voted mid herald...

Sorry I missed you, tired and painkiller doped.

That's two for Mid then.


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Sacred Fire
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As far as Gogeta is concerned, the lowest I could go is High Herald. Although, Goku could possibly be the same, but I guess that will be left for another day.


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As far as Gogeta is concerned, the lowest I could go is High Herald. Although, Goku could possibly be the same, but I guess that will be left for another day.

High Herald is a really wide tier. The top end of the tier where the best lanterns, Supes, Surfer and Thor hang out is still far out of the reach of anything I've seen from DBZ.

So Gogeta, Goku, and the PPG remain undefined so far.


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Sacred Fire
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I'll try to refresh my DBZ info tomorrow. Counting sheep for now. I'll let you know if I come up with anything else.


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XanatosForever
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Who else should we discuss then?


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Back to the PPGs for a moment then.

Votes so far:

1 High meta
2 Low Herald


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High Herald is a really wide tier. The top end of the tier where the best lanterns, Supes, Surfer and Thor hang out is still far out of the reach of anything I've seen from DBZ.

So Gogeta, Goku, and the PPG remain undefined so far.


I'm curious but why?

Even for character such as Superman and Thor destroying a planet is a good feat. Sure, they have feats way beyond that but they have also struggled with far far less. Their average level seems to be around DBZ level.

DBZ characters aren't great physically but their energy attacks more than make up for it IMO. Yes, Supes could probably one shot most DBZ characters with a punch, but at the same time a single energy attack from the higher ups are going to leave Superman in a world of pain.


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NotAllThatEvil
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May i cast a vote for low herald for the girls.

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High Meta seems like a decent spot for them.


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High meta for PPG due to the fluctuating feats, regardless of how you look at those they would fit perfectly there given everything.


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Who else should we discuss then?


I just want to throw in Marcus Fenix. Remember, the guy can completely smash flat a Locust skull even with it's head covered in armor with one stomp of his foot.


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High meta for PPG due to the fluctuating feats, regardless of how you look at those they would fit perfectly there given everything.
Are you considering all theirweird powers?

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I just want to throw in Marcus Fenix. Remember, the guy can completely smash flat a Locust skull even with it's head covered in armor with one stomp of his foot.


So...what, Mid Street?


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SevenShackles
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Didn't catch all of the dbz talk since I'm at work.. Night shift.. But Shouldn't they be divided into relevant stages? Such as vegeta = saiyan saga vegeta, namek saga vegeta, android saga vegeta, buu saga/Majin vegeta. If they fall into the same tier hen I'd imagine they would be combined like saiyan/namek saga vegeta. Or what not. Or just pick time frames and go from there like include early versions and end series versions to cover any relevant base level tier changes (not counting any transformations.)


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Just way to many then and we would make the tier list a cluster****. Might as well just use peak.


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Originally posted by XanatosForever
So...what, Mid Street?


I guess, might need more people to chime in on that to confirm.


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BloodRain
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Marcus is mid street.


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Originally posted by ares834
Just way to many then and we would make the tier list a cluster****. Might as well just use peak.

True enough, its why i was asking as I was hoping it wouldn't become a dbz dominated listing.


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Originally posted by ares834
I'm curious but why?

Even for character such as Superman and Thor destroying a planet is a good feat. Sure, they have feats way beyond that but they have also struggled with far far less. Their average level seems to be around DBZ level.

DBZ characters aren't great physically but their energy attacks more than make up for it IMO. Yes, Supes could probably one shot most DBZ characters with a punch, but at the same time a single energy attack from the higher ups are going to leave Superman in a world of pain.
To be clear I was not voting for a tier in that post, just expressing my opinion on relative power.

DBZ characters are much slower and more fragile than top heralds like Thor, Surfer and Supes. Sure, Thor gets jobbed around in team books on occasion but we're told on occasion Thor holds back when he's on Earth, and his showings off of Earth compared to those on Earth fall in line with that.

DBZ characters have good destructive capability with their ki, but that's their defining trait. Physically they're far less imposing, and tbh I don't see the ki attacks working out against most characters in the tier, either because they won't do enough damage or won't hit at all.

Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Cyborg Superman, Dr. Strange (classic), Doomsday (Gog Wars), The Eradicator (Fortress Mode), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), Quasar, Qztr, Silver Surfer, Sinestro, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman, Swamp Thing, Talisman, Thor, Zoom II (Hunter Solomon)

Most of these characters either have massive versatility and hax such as Doctor Strange, or a huge edge in overall physical formidability like Supes, or a mix of both like Surfer or Thor. Essentially I just don't think they can split with many characters in the tier at all.

Then you have mid heralds:

Adam Warlock, Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Bizarro Superman, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Circe, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Count Nefaria, Damien Hellstrom, Etrigan, Evinlea, The Fallen One, Firelord, Firestorm, The Flash II (Barry Allen), The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), The General (Shaggy Man), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John, Katma, Kilowog), Hulk, Hyperion, Ikaris, Imperiex Probes, Juggernaut (Classic), Kid Omega, Kurse, Lobo, Loki, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Metamorpho, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sersi, Shaman, Skreet, Solomon Grundy, Supergirl, Supreme, Terrax the Tamer, Void (Wildstorm, no Creation Engine power), Waverider, Wildfire, Witchfire (Demon Form), Wonder Woman

Beta Ray Bill, Black Adam, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Classic Juggernaut, etc.

Going by the criteria of 'go up the list until they start splitting and losing' and from what I know of DBZ (not GT) that's mid herald, there are some people in mid that could really wreck saiyan ass, imho.

But that's just me, and I only get one vote. stick out tongue I'm not using it yet, though. So eh.

They'll go wherever you all vote for them to go.

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Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
May i cast a vote for low herald for the girls.
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Originally posted by XanatosForever
High Meta seems like a decent spot for them.
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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
High meta for PPG due to the fluctuating feats, regardless of how you look at those they would fit perfectly there given everything.


3 LH
3 HM

Dicks.


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