Here's the thing tho, Antonia/Marnie couldn't pull off such range alone. It was the added power the others brought with the chanting and whatnot that allowed the spell to reach as far as it did. The strictly mind control one would be boosted as well with a whole ceremony backing it up and empowering it.
All still scared shitless. Yes, they have bombs. But humans have silver bullets which, to a vampire, is equally as fatal.
And thats the problem I highlighted earlier, that pillar that even gives the Fae a chance is these two. On the flip side what happens when Warlow and Russell die? The vampires still win as Godric, Salome, Eric, Nan, Violet, Talbot, Magister, Sophie-Ann, Kibwe, Roman, Luis and Isabel are all faster than Nora aka the fastest a Fae has shown reacting to.
When were there vampires around here just watching Eric get controlled?
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And no Fae apart from two can have a reflex claim made for them, only like that of humans.
Its not one on one.. no, the point of the list is that if the top two Vamps die there are still a dozen others whose speed is above the fastest thing any Fae has dealt with. While if Elder or Niall die, that is it for their side, and following that its over for them. Niall is strong, but put him in the face of Sophie and Salome and he's going to be overwhelmed.
So when split up and none of them witnessing Eric at the time? Again, her only chance is heavily circumstantial.
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Three can. Elder, Claudine, Niall.....also Warlow so that is four including the hybrid.
We never saw the Fae of Mab's attack the vampires.
I don't know. Niall can teleport away while easily koing Sophie. Then it is one on one.
Marnie can split them up with her forces and magic. That's within her power and supported by the series. Why ignore an actual encounter of vampires vs. her and her coven.
Show me Claudine reacting to a Vampire. Why is Warlow on their side?
So what? They still have human reflexes, so again, humans with silver bullets.
Sophie is faster than Nora.
Because A) Her coven are worthless, and B) She can do that all she likes, difference here is that it wont just be a small handful of vamps.. its an army of them.
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And? He's still the undead. Edit: Ahh saw the OP, okay.
Lol show me the difference between an average Fae blast and a silver bullet against a vampire. The only difference as far as the vamp is concerned is "which one is faster" as both will be fatal. They are still 'human' outside of that, just as vulnerable.
So she's faster than what Niall has shown to compete against.
They are. Nothing changes that. The only competent Witches are Jesus, Lafayette and Holly. Neither of them could ever stand up to the weakest vampire besides 'maybe' the demon. Otherwise they are all just her backup singers, doing jack all solo. So again, just like with the Fae, the whole team is basically 2 characters.
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She reacted to Warlow's presence and had the speed of blast to hit him who is 5,500 years old. Looks like Fae her age or older can tag vampires. You want to use age to determine it so you shit on your own case.
Bullets have to be used skill wise at the heart not the Fae blasts. Hit the body and then ko time.
Niall is greater than Claudine who caught a 5,500 year old hybrid with one.
False. They can use silver and back her up. We saw them already and they weren't all wiped out. Marnie can also acquire many vampires since she can take out Eric who is 1,100 years old.
Getting non-fatal by a silver bullet brings a vamp to the floor in agony, similar to how all but the fatal blasts only knock them out. Both can be damaging, both can be fatal, and both comes from beings with human reactions. And tbh I have no idea why youre focussing so much on bullet vs blast when that has nothing to do with anything besides being a comparison about Fae's reactions.
Did she react to his speed?
Oh wow, game changer. So now its a vampire army vs Marnie and backup singers who now hold silver.
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She successfully tagged a vampire who is well above bullet timing at 5,500 years so don't you dare even try to make exceptions here. You're whole Niall against Nora relied on age. Faes can tag vampires. Not always but yes they can tag even very old ones.
Watch the cemetery scene. Marnie did fine. Marnie also did not have the Brujo on her side as that was the reason she lost as he severed the connection to Antonia.
Marnie was not defeated just by vampires but by a Brujo. We see her come back and easily capture Eric and Bill by herself using a Brujo as well.
Marnie can do a lot of damage to vampires in general. The season made it clear. You want to ignore it and pretend she can be easily taken out at any time.
No, I'm not asking about what her blast did, I'm asking you if she displayed the reactions of being able to track a vampires speed.
She did just fine? This is Marnie's part in that whole scene: She casts mist, hides, waits for the first vamp and controls him, all while said vamp is solo. Like I said, we're dealing with a lot more vamps, so getting one solo will be a huge task.
At the end of the day, there are more vampires than she has the speed or range to grab.
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We never saw her in that situation. We only see her defeat Warlow and then get caught off guard by Eric while talking to Sookie.
She can disorient them and clog up the vision of the battlefield by doing so.
That's why she does not put herself in the middle of a bad situation and she also has a Brujo at her side. Once she starts taking over vampires that is when things get interesting.
Hiding from hundreds of vamps, I'm sure that'll go down well.
Which is the point; It is only when herself and the stage crew somehow manage to gather a large chunk of the vamps that this can be called even. Its a large assumption that she will be able to do all that without a vamp ever getting the chance to attack her. Only takes one hit.
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Other Faeries younger than her have tagged vampires using their speed.
She can teleport and mind control vampires.
Once she starts amassing vampires she can do serious damage. The entire vampire community was after her and it was not easy for them to get to her due to her barrier.
Well, we see her own vampires and be in a battlefield and come out on top.
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