quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by The Scenario
Cannot prove what?
This isn't about Link. The question is whether or Russell can stop Dangoro.
Do the boots make Russell stronger?
What it hit.
Boots make it clear heaviness stops them not the strength of Link. Fact.
No, the boots stop the Gorons though as the game clearly states.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 06:32 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove how fast the goat was moving. You made the claim. Speed does not matter unless its a zelda feat, obviously.
Prove he got stronger. His skills and gear got better. His strength never increased to stop a Goron without the boots. Fact.
31, 32. The car had stopped by the time Russell touched it.Hurr.
33. He's stated to get stronger and his feats reflect it. Fact.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 06:33 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
31, 32. The car had stopped by the time Russell touched it.Hurr.
33. He's stated to get stronger and his feats reflect it. Fact.
You claimed you knew the goats speed so prove it.
His strength never is strong enough to stop the Gorons minus the boots. Backs me up.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 06:35 PM
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39. Faster than something that isn't moving. C:
40. Link would've stopped the Goron on Death Mountain Trail if he had a few more feet behind him before the cliff, this is Link early on, lol.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 06:39 PM
The Scenario
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
What it hit.
I don't even know what you're talking about here. Look at this:
quote: Originally posted by The Senario
Dangoro is larger than a car, wearing metal armor, and is partially made of rock. He is heavier than a car. Russell has not shown enough strength to lift that much weight. Thus I conclude that Dangoro is too heavy to Russell to stop.
quote: Originally posted by quanchi112
You cannot prove it and Link needs boots to do so. Russell easily palmed a car unlike Link's gear aided feat.
Then I asked what I couldn't prove, and your answer is "What it hit." What is "it"? What should "it" be hitting? Why is something suddenly being hit when neither of us is discussing anything even related to a hit?
Are you starting to get the threads confused? Maybe you shouldn't be trying to answer every post in every thread as fast as you can. Slow down, think about your posts more. It can only help. Pretend its a battlezone or something.
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Boots make it clear heaviness stops them not the strength of Link. Fact.
Not really. Weighing more doesn't make you stronger, it's just being anchored helps with leverage. It doesn't change the weight of the Gorons, and Russell still hasn't shown the necessary strength. You still need strength to lift them, after all.
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No, the boots stop the Gorons though as the game clearly states.
The game doesn't state that. What it states is that Link is strong, but "power alone is nothing special, brother." Link needs both strength and weight to wrestle Gorons, and this is still irrelevant to lifting them. Russell has the boots, but he doesn't have the strength.
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Sep 2nd, 2013 06:55 PM
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Normal goats charge at 15mph. Backing it up is those goats charging faster than Epona's trot, a horses trot being 10-17mph.
Triple the cars speed. :l
quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Both items make the point abundantly clear. Link needs a sword to kill his enemies and the boots to halt greater weight.
He is someone who sees the futility in the character x lifted z in one issue while ignoring the other instances of the character getting ko'd by far less.
It's all the same shit but fanboys always try to pretend their cases or situations are different.
Okay? That still has nothing to do with what bringing up swords has to do with shown strength feats.
Thus I refer you to the Eric point. He dodged 1 bullet, got hit with another, threatened with several, tagged by obvious sub-sonic things.. yet you will either only talk about the his top feats or at rare times accept both high and low. You don't accept mid or high end feats from Link. At most youve said Link is superhuman for lifting Gorons, then try to downplay it by acting like his limit is goat-level.
Now, why is Russell strong enough to lift up that large beast? Why do you believe breaking bones is a strong enough feat?
So a guy that has nothing to do with TB or TP nor does this guys opinion mean anything?
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Sep 2nd, 2013 07:19 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
39. Faster than something that isn't moving. C:
40. Link would've stopped the Goron on Death Mountain Trail if he had a few more feet behind him before the cliff, this is Link early on, lol.
The car was moving. Otherwise he wouldn't have needed to stop it.
Speculation.
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Sep 3rd, 2013 01:32 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by The Scenario
I don't even know what you're talking about here. Look at this:
Then I asked what I couldn't prove, and your answer is "What it hit." What is "it"? What should "it" be hitting? Why is something suddenly being hit when neither of us is discussing anything even related to a hit?
Are you starting to get the threads confused? Maybe you shouldn't be trying to answer every post in every thread as fast as you can. Slow down, think about your posts more. It can only help. Pretend its a battlezone or something.
Not really. Weighing more doesn't make you stronger, it's just being anchored helps with leverage. It doesn't change the weight of the Gorons, and Russell still hasn't shown the necessary strength. You still need strength to lift them, after all.
The game doesn't state that. What it states is that Link is strong, but "power alone is nothing special, brother." Link needs both strength and weight to wrestle Gorons, and this is still irrelevant to lifting them. Russell has the boots, but he doesn't have the strength.
The boots are required due to Link not being strong enough to stop their momentum or equalize their physicality.
Link is strong enough to lift the dead weight just like Bo is but neither get to that point without the heaviness the boots bring to the table.
Russell has superior strength to Link and Bo. Russell rips through bodies like no one else whereas Link is reliant on weapons to do his dirty work.
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Sep 3rd, 2013 01:35 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by BloodRain
Normal goats charge at 15mph. Backing it up is those goats charging faster than Epona's trot, a horses trot being 10-17mph.
Triple the cars speed. :l
Okay? That still has nothing to do with what bringing up swords has to do with shown strength feats.
Thus I refer you to the Eric point. He dodged 1 bullet, got hit with another, threatened with several, tagged by obvious sub-sonic things.. yet you will either only talk about the his top feats or at rare times accept both high and low. You don't accept mid or high end feats from Link. At most youve said Link is superhuman for lifting Gorons, then try to downplay it by acting like his limit is goat-level.
Now, why is Russell strong enough to lift up that large beast? Why do you believe breaking bones is a strong enough feat?
So a guy that has nothing to do with TB or TP nor does this guys opinion mean anything?
I accept all showings for all characters. I never said Eric cannot be tagged but the point is he is still a blur to someone like Link when he uses his speed. I don't debate by one feat alone as the crucial point of my argument and nor should you.
The manner in which he rips though bodies and the ease in which he palmed the car demonstrates no challenge whatsoever.
His opinion has to do with fictional writing in general. That's how these guys think basically and this whole lets figure out the fictional weight here in this feat is fools gold.
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Sep 3rd, 2013 01:38 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
The car was moving. Otherwise he wouldn't have needed to stop it.
Speculation.
He didn't need to stop it? He just tilted it.
No, we can plainly see this in game.
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Sep 3rd, 2013 04:11 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
He didn't need to stop it? He just tilted it.
No, we can plainly see this in game.
You need superhuman strength to replicate his feat.
No, we don't.
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Sep 3rd, 2013 04:23 AM
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Yes, but not to any special degree.
51.
Russell is not durable or strong enough to do this. Prove otherwise or admit it.
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Sep 3rd, 2013 04:32 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yes, but not to any special degree.
51.
Russell is not durable or strong enough to do this. Prove otherwise or admit it.
boots make the Gorons stop. Russell rips apart bodies at vampire speed and doesn't even bruise due to superior durability whereas goats knock Link on his ass without the proper technique.
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Sep 3rd, 2013 04:35 AM
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56. The boots on their own cannot do this. They don't have arms, legs, or a body to stop Dangoro with. Russell is not strong enough to match Dangoro's weight in motion or durable enough, the collision will crush him.
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Sep 3rd, 2013 04:37 AM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
56. The boots on their own cannot do this. They don't have arms, legs, or a body to stop Dangoro with. Russell is not strong enough to match Dangoro's weight in motion or durable enough, the collision will crush him.
Link's strength alone cannot do so. I can use the in game quote.
Russell stops them with the boots and uses his superior strength to toss them easily.
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Sep 3rd, 2013 04:40 AM
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Link's strength is the sole reason Dangoro is stopped rather than just rolling over the boots. 61.
62.
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Sep 3rd, 2013 04:41 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link's strength is the sole reason Dangoro is stopped rather than just rolling over the boots. 61.
62.
Boots. Game makes it clear.
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Sep 3rd, 2013 04:42 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Boots. Game makes it clear.
66. The game makes it clear that the boots have no arms or legs.
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Sep 3rd, 2013 04:44 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
66. The game makes it clear that the boots have no arms or legs.
Game makes it clear Link's strength can never do it alone.
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Sep 3rd, 2013 04:46 AM
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71. Physics. Link is stronger and more durable than Russell, stop avoiding this.
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