No Z character can move faster than light under their own power without IT. That "faster than light" BS was a dub error. By the android saga, the Z warriors are dumbfounded that Goku can teleport to Roshi's place and back in a few seconds; even Gotenks circumnavigates the Earth slower than C. There is numerous to debunk this rather trite misconception. If Z warriors were FTL, Goku and Vegeta wouldn't have failed to rescue Gohan/Goten/Trunks/Piccolo.
Galactus's heralds can move FTL and bust stars - the most powerful DBZ characters are still STL and planet busters at best.
Last edited by Master Han on Sep 11th, 2013 at 07:32 PM
yes it is if its stated or it happens then its canon im not a fanboy i just dislike marvel fanboys so much cause they think any superhero could solo anything so i try to prove them wrong. hell i met a no life who said hulk could solo the freaking dc universe.
The anime directly contradicts the manga on multiple major plot points; the two universes simply are not compatible.
And BTW, if you wish to take the anime as canon, I'd point out that the characters AREN'T MOVING VERY FAST based on what we, you know, actually see. The manga's comic medium sort of sidesteps this argument. But hey, anime's canon, right?
Piccolo's exasperated and shocked assessment of the situation isn't much of a gauge for the entire franchise's standards. You should have brought up the speed at which his energy blast hits the moon, that was near light speed--making the casual dodging of such attacks seem comparable in speed.
But even that example is problematic. It makes it look like an off-the-cuff blast can destroy a planetoid, yet far stronger characters explode with everything they can muster and it only scratches the surface beneath their feet. DBZ has too many incarnations of the anime and manga to be used properly, at least when trying to use all of them at once. Even one at a time, they tend to contradict themselves.
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Like others have said, we didn't begin seeing light speed+ travel in DBZ until Goku learned to utilize instant transmission.
Contend with Bills(the God of destruction), who was stated by Akira himself to be more powerful than any being(s) ever seen in DBZ(which would include Buuhan and Vegito)-- a fact he proved by utterly shit-stomping the likes of SSJ3 Goku, Mystic Gohan, Gotenks, etc. etc. with laughable ease.
Though it should be noted that Bills was reportedly only utilizing 70% of his power when he and SSJG Goku battled.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Sep 12th, 2013 at 02:02 AM