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Thor has access to the godblast power even in a hammerless scenario. http://s388.photobucket.com/user/On...01v282.jpg.html
It's not explicitly noted that this was the godblast, however the manner in which he tapped into his own inner godly power is similar to the way other narratives describe the godblast's formation.
Thor's only disadantage against Goku is his speed. He is stronger, more durable, better damage soak, as good a fighter, has mjolnir to block Gokus best shots and has a superior Blast or at least the equal of Gokus best. Goku will go down, hard.
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Thor has tons more fighting experience than Goku, he has more years of experience than Goku's age. Goku's speed doesn't mean anything to someone who can keep up with Silver Surfer.
He does have all those years of fighting experience. but he tends to fight like a brute. Which is why I don't think he is anywhere near Goku's equal. At least not his normal holding back portrayal.
Couple of statements. Among them one he made in avengers manual about not being able to beat someone in time for being use to holding back in the human world for so long.
I understand that this is a comic book fan dominated forum, but this wank on KMC is just retarded. This is ridiculous; hammerless Thor beating SSJG Goku? Goku stomps. Part 1 DB characters' blasts were moving at light speed (see the moon busting feats. It's been done multiple times and referenced in data books as well)
So fck is Thor going to do vs SSG Goku? Lightning when Goku can tank planet busters early on in DBZ? The speed difference is massively in favor of Goku, the fighting ability difference is massively in favor of Goku, and the power output difference is also massively in favor for Goku.
Just think about it this way. Where would you put Iron Man in DBZ? Raditz level? Nappa level? Saiyan Saga Vegeta level (who was able to shake the planet by just powering up and was also capable of destroying the earth with a single blast?) And what's the difference between Iron Man and Thor? Thor isn't even 10 times as powerful as Iron Man going by most sources. So now what's the difference between Nappa/Raditz and SSJG Goku? Hell, don't even go that far. What's the power difference between Nappa/Raditz and first form Frieza?
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The speed difference is even more massive than the power output difference.
Characters with power levels within the 200 range were able to catch machine gun bullets.
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That's at least a couple of hundred times faster than sound.
Same guy with a very, very low powerlevel destroying the moon with a blast in a very short interval.
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Done again by another character who is a bit stronger than Roshi.
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Don't like those? Think they're inconsistent/outliers?
Here is Cell:
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Goku’s IT lagtime being:
0.01 of a second (at the minimum) = rounded to roughly mach 2,900,000 from mach 2,941,176. This makes Cell’s KHH FTL, meaning that Cell Games Goku had FTL reaction/combat speed.
The difference between this Goku and SSJG Goku is literally incomprehensible.
So there is absolutely no way Thor can win here.
Last edited by TheTyrant on Oct 12th, 2013 at 09:55 PM
What's the difference then? It could be smaller, it could be bigger. Who knows? It would just be an uneducated assumption either way. Besides, IT'S A F**KING MOON. It's an impressive feat regardless.
We're agreed here. The only lightspeed/FTL showing I can recall is IT. Although, I'm not fully updated as it stands. Then again, that may all just be for the viewer's sake.
Actually, bullet timing is said to be a roughly supersonic feat, and he referred Roshi as being FTS, not the bullets.
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A machine gun bullet travels at roughly mach 3/mach 4. Roshi caught at least 9 bullets in a short interval. Maybe not a couple of hundred times, but at least tens of times faster than sound.
Nice denial there. At that point, these guys were fighting faster than the human eye could see. And exactly based on what did the humans see that Roshi blast?
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There was just a huge flash of light that blinded everybody for a second. Nobody even realized that the moon was destroyed and nobody saw the energy beam travel towards the moon until moments later.
I like how you're being nit picky about DB feats, but at the same time you would bring up once-in-a-lifetime Thor showings to make him seem less pathetic compared to DBZ characters. Less than shit-tiers in DB could casually destroy planets with power levels of 18,000. Their top-tier characters like Buu and Gotenks were breaking dimensions by just powering up and screaming.
Fact of the matter is, that if Nappa or saiyan saga Vegeta were on Marvel earth, they'd be considered to be HUGE threats and they'd be wrecking most Avengers rosters. Buu level dudes, well there would be a huge arc about that stuff purely because of how powerful and destructive Buu is. My Iron Man analogy works perfectly.
>SSJG Goku loses to hammerless Thor.
Not biased at all there buddy. Rofl
Last edited by TheTyrant on Oct 13th, 2013 at 03:38 AM
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There's no point in DBZ canon where anyone or anything moves ftl, lol. It's been dragged out endlessly all over the internet. Furthermore DBZ characters aren't all that durable, and every time someone says 'power level' their argument is basically already defeating itself.
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What does that even mean? Why would the canon not make sense if the characters could fight at FTL? It's not like Dragon Ball was a masterpiece without plotholes.
What does that even mean? Based on what aren't they durable? Based on Frieza, while out of energy and on the brink of death, surviving the explosion of a planet point blank?
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It could be smaller, it could be bigger. Who knows? It would just be an uneducated assumption either way. Besides, IT'S A F**KING MOON. It's an impressive feat regardless.
