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The Sentry was to much for the Uatu the Watcher to do anything about and the Watcher and Odin are near same level.
Odin wouldn't be able to do much to the Sentry.


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Sentry would get b***h slap back to Robert Reynolds. Odin is superior than MM that fought Sentry; my God people can't comprehend stories and context.

Sentry defeated a self restricted MM after battling Beyonder, their battled would have continue would've caused multiverse to collapse on itself. After that battle in FF MM restricted himself even further; so when he fought Sentry he was not I repeat was not on his originally level prior to that fight. Even his split personalities mention that, he was limited, he wanted to get caught.

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Sentry defeated a self restricted MM after battling Beyonder, their battled would have continue would've caused multiverse to collapse on itself. After that battle in FF MM restricted himself even further


Prove it.

I've seen more dedicated, edjucated and handsome (which is not hard to be, really) people than you coming up with in-depth summaries of the Molecule Man not being depowered.

I want you to prove that Molecule Man was depowered.

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It is funny how the same posters who say Sentry was not depowered vs WWH argue that MM is depowered vs Sentry.

Very laughable if you ask me. Talk about hating a character.


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For anybody want to which FF Beyonder vs molecule Man FF Annual 27 and check the respect thread where it's stated on panel that MM restricted himself after his battle with Beyonder

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and Sentry does not? How can you argue MM depowers himself but disregard it when it comes to Sentry? It has been stated many times that Sentry's mental state effects his powerlevel


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For anybody want to which FF Beyonder vs molecule Man FF Annual 27 and check the respect thread where it's stated on panel that MM restricted himself after his battle with Beyonder


Ooooh Dumbone, you're making yourself look like a fool, once again...

After the instance you just described, he fought the Beyonder in a multi-transversal battle:

Fantastic Four Annual 27:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_52.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_53.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_54.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_55.jpg

After that instance he also repaired the Earth on a planetary scale, so there goes the Sentry hater theory with Molecule Man only operating on a local scale:

Incredible Hulk 442:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...hulk442_17a.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...hulk442_17b.jpg

I asked you to prove that Molecule Man was depowered and you failed. With what other BS will you come up to piss your two mortal enemies common sense and logic off?

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and Sentry does not? How can you argue MM depowers himself but disregard it when it comes to Sentry? It has been stated many times that Sentry's mental state effects his powerlevel


It was stated in FF annual 27 MM after defeating Beyonder he restricted himself prior to DA arch; Sentry defeated a water down version of MM whose powers at that time was limited before DA arrived. MM or Evil Molecule Man at his peak was greater than the Abstracts, his normal levels prior to DA MM was above sky fathers in raw power; DA MM was below his normal levels where he restricted himself. Im not saying Sentry didn't defeat MM; he didn't defeat MM who wasn't restricted/depowered himself from his original level.

You can take it how you want it I don't care.

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you didnt answer my question.

the feats MM has accomplished depowered are crazy so your point means nothing


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Void almost won the war against Sentry before so it can be done dispite what Bendis says.


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you didnt answer my question.

the feats MM has accomplished depowered are crazy so your point means nothing



Firsestorm or Captain Atom could've done the same thing as MM did in DA, we all know that MM even at normal power levels prior to his battle with Beyonder, MM could've done much worse than his weaker DA MM version much worse.

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Firsestorm or Captain Atom could've done the same thing as MM did in DA


So, because Molecule Man didn't randomly teleport to a different galaxy to destroy it, to please random jokers like you, it makes him less impressive, even though we have a variety of past showings, which speak for him?

Seems legit. Oh, no wait, it doesn't.

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we all know that MM even at normal power levels prior to his battle with Beyonder, MM could've done much worse than his weaker DA MM version much worse.


"we all know" ... LOL!

No, what we know - thanks to actual events in comics, is that Molecule Man was not depowered. Just like I've posted it in the different thread, here is it again ... some feats Molecule Man came up with POST his depowerment every braindead Sentry hater is talking about :

He fought the Beyonder in a multi-transversal battle:

Fantastic Four Annual 27:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_52.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_53.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_54.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_55.jpg

After that instance he also repaired the Earth on a planetary scale, so there goes the Sentry hater theory with Molecule Man only operating on a local scale:

Incredible Hulk 442:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...hulk442_17a.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...hulk442_17b.jpg

I asked you to prove that Molecule Man was depowered and you failed. With what other BS will you come up to piss your two mortal enemies common sense and logic off?

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Firsestorm or Captain Atom could've done the same thing as MM did in DA, we all know that MM even at normal power levels prior to his battle with Beyonder, MM could've done much worse than his weaker DA MM version much worse.
How can you argue MM depowers himself but disregard it when it comes to Sentry?

This is the question I am asking.

Not what you think about MM powerlevel during DA.

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Ooooh Dumbone, you're making yourself look like a fool, once again...

After the instance you just described, he fought the Beyonder in a multi-transversal battle:

Fantastic Four Annual 27:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_52.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_53.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_54.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_55.jpg

After that instance he also repaired the Earth on a planetary scale, so there goes the Sentry hater theory with Molecule Man only operating on a local scale:

Incredible Hulk 442:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...hulk442_17a.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...hulk442_17b.jpg

I asked you to prove that Molecule Man was depowered and you failed. With what other BS will you come up to piss your two mortal enemies common sense and logic off?




Come on... Is anyone really surprised that Odumbone is truly clueless and that he just makes sh!t up as he goes to fit his contrived arguments?


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So, because Molecule Man didn't randomly teleport to a different galaxy to destroy it, to please random jokers like you, it makes him less impressive, even though we have a variety of past showings, which speak for him?

Seems legit. Oh, no wait, it doesn't.



"we all know" ... LOL!

No, what we know - thanks to actual events in comics, is that Molecule Man was not depowered. Just like I've posted it in the different thread, here is it again ... some feats Molecule Man came up with POST his depowerment every braindead Sentry hater is talking about :

He fought the Beyonder in a multi-transversal battle:

Fantastic Four Annual 27:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_52.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_53.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_54.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ffann027_55.jpg

After that instance he also repaired the Earth on a planetary scale, so there goes the Sentry hater theory with Molecule Man only operating on a local scale:

Incredible Hulk 442:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...hulk442_17a.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...hulk442_17b.jpg

I asked you to prove that Molecule Man was depowered and you failed. With what other BS will you come up to piss your two mortal enemies common sense and logic off?


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That's an unleashed side of MM he explains it here at the end of the book. The MM in Dark Avengers is a pacifist *****.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...s_011_pg_17.jpg

Compare MM in your scans with these two and you can see the difference. MM has two sides to himself. Even if he's at planetary level that's still far below Odin. If Void is as powerful is you claim then why would the Norn Stones harm him so much? Are the Norn Stones more powerful than the Fantastic Four Annual 27 Molecule Man? MM limits himself depending on his mental state. In Dark Avenger's he's hiding like a whimpering coward whereas the FF27 could've destroy a galaxy with the powers at his fingers. He was even more delusional then ever seeing as the beings around him (Dormammu, Beyonder, Mephisto, etc.) were merely projects of his mind telling him what to do.

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But hey, let's ignore those instances where Sentry goes nuts and runs away from fights because of mental issues so it doesn't hurt his rep. We'll use an instance where MM is having his own mental issues which affects his powers and claim Sentry beat the same being that featured in FF27. Lol

I guess this means Torch is more powerful than Sentry?
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[B]Sentry stalemating Galactus, DUH?!

But, let's just assume that Sentry did stalemate Galactus, even if it was a hungry version of Big G, he already did more than Odin.
But since off panel statements don't mean crap, that's not a valid argument.

What else?

Absorbing Man absorbed Asgardian artifacts and Odin's magic itself, yet he was impressed more by the fraction of Sentry's power he had and when Sentry cut loose, he straight up exploded.


Sounds great except Absorbing Man didn't beat Odin. Odin beat Absorbing Man. So what's your point? Odin killed two death gods already. Guys like Absorbing Man and Annihilus we're spared. Even after Annihilus was consuming the life force of most of Asgard, Odin spared him. Plus this was among Absorbing Man's first showings. Odin's magic surpasses Loki; he could just stripe AM of his powers if not for CIS. First appearance wanking is just that.

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Sentry took care of Doctor Doom twice and destroyed his force fields, which protected Doctor Doom from attacks more destructive than what Odin has to offer.


And Thanos blasted Galactus out of his ship but failed multiple attempts to even move Odin off his feet. Does this mean Odin is more durable than Galactus? lol? Do you really want to pit Doom up against Odin and argue that Doom would beat able to stand up to Odin at all? Odin who has one shotted guys like Surfer, Drax, and Annhilus? Odin who was casually killing of a Hell Lord?


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Sentry defeated the Molecule Man in terms of raw destructive power and the Molecule Man stands above Odin and should be at least on the level of a hungry Galactus IMO.


A delusional MM that had manifestations of Mephisto and Beyonder (who he hates) advising him. A mentally unstable MM who was a pacifist? Why don't we just bring up all those mentally unstable instances where Sentry lost fights or ran off because of mental issues? That Sentry would get torn apart by Thor.


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Sentry has the natural speed advantage over Odin, just like over basically every other regular Marvel character I can think of right now. On top of that he is capable of performing stuff under his own power for which you would need the Odin Force like resurrecting people and so on.


What would this speed advantage matter? Odin manipulates time and space. He's tapped into the power Eternity's opposite Infinity and was consuming the cosmos. Go check on Odin's fight with Forsung, a skyfather mystic being, that spend the universe and wrecks stars like they were ant hills.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images? q=tbn... GWD5tJs-rnRzZw

Recounting Odin's fight. He kills the Enchanter's most powerful member and spares the other two. Yup, Absorbing Man was lucky Odin was merciful.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads..._517_015_09.jpg

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I could see Sentry's telepathy / empathy affecting Odin slightly, since it already affected the minds of Omega Level mutants, who have the potential to be more powerful than Odin and it also already affected Thor, who withstood the Phoenix and Moondragon before.


Yeah, if we ignore Odin's own mental powers. Or that time when he took control of Surtur to battle Ymir. Have the potential. Lol. The majority of Omega Mutants are overrated. The ones live up to their rep word destroy Sentry in a fight.

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With all that being said, this is one of the fights where you don't argue if Sentry can beat Odin, but rather if Molecule Man could beat Odin and if he can, Sentry is supposed to be capable of doing it as well :-7 I'm not a fan of such a debate, so my money is on Odin due to him having more greater high end feats.


Yup, I agree with the last statement. Odin has more consistent high end feats.


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News flash, MM is mentally unstable too! He's manifesting faux versions of Beyonder and Mephisto to talk to.


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WWK doesn't know anything.

I'm getting sick and tired of his trolling.


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News flash, MM is mentally unstable too! He's manifesting faux versions of Beyonder and Mephisto to talk to.


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