I have to confess that I would see Vitiate doing a better job than Sidios did with them.
He was more disciplined and resolved than Sidious was TBH!
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
You know it was just my own opinion, not necessarly a statement?... I just said that of how I percieve Vitiate, he's that ruthless shy calm dude, that's how I see him TBH.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Except in all our arguments, you've never been able to counter a single argument of mine. If you're smarter and have better arguments, prove it instead of pointless flaming and insults.
Prove why I'm an idiot before calling me an idiot and I'd take you and SupremeSkillz more seriously.
Lulz. I like how you think you're in any position to judge anyone's debating, especially SKILLZ, after saying Lightning is the same as a wormhole. Revanchiste is a better debater, and he can't even speak English.
Except I'm not the one who makes Ludicrous claims putting certain SW Characters over others and fabricates information just to stay relevant to certain arguments, then when people call you out on your obvious bullshit, you shut up for the rest of the day, at least Skillz has integrity in his arguments and doesn't come up with completely unprecendented and unfounded claims to win an argument.
Well, Palpatine in the Darth Plaguies novel absorbed energy/was the epicenter of a tremor that "burrowed into the core of the world (Coruscant) and shook the stars" Now the shaking the stars part is obviously hyperbole, but if we limit to it just shaking Coruscant it actually fits with the level of power he later demonstrates in DE. He is capable of opening Force Storms and controlling them, the Storms are capable of ripping apart the surface of worlds and killing them. Palpatine is also stronger than Plaguies, who by simply visiting Naboo threw the whole planet in a planet-wide winter, and his master made Planetary Dark side nexuses that were so potent with the Dark-side Palpatine compared it to Korriban and other Sith worlds. He himself made a Dark Side nexus which is Byss in the span of a few decades. Other DS nexuses require entire legions of Sith to do something like that and the process usually takes many centuries.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
When have I ever shut up about anything? I'm still responding to your stupidity, for some reason even given your track recording spouting so much bullshit, that one could literally bag it and sell it. To make matters worse you have the rhetoric and vocabulary of someone who just hit double digits, and for all I know you really could have. I mean if you're going to say something retarded, at least say it in a convincing way or hell, even just spell the word "unprecedented" correctly before insulting someone. Do something more productive with your time than being the internet posterchild for irony. It's not as amusing as you think it is.
Palpatine didn't absorb that energy, it dissipated on its own. I perceive it as an element of disturbance or ripple effect in the Force.
Darth Plagueis didn't alter the climatic conditions of Naboo on planetary-scale. It was a regional (one-time) event.
Palpatine was able to conjure Force Storm (Wormhole) power after years of honing his talents in the Dark Side and siphoning energy from the populace of Byss to fuel his raw power on consistent basis.
'Sprung from death, it unleashed itself in a powerful wave, at once burrowing deep into the world’s core and radiating through its saccharine atmosphere to shake the stars themselves. At the quake’s epicenter stood Sidious, one elegant hand vised on the burnished sill of an expansive translucency, a vessel filled suddenly to bursting, the Force so strong within him that he feared he might disappear into it, never to return. But the moment didn’t constitute an ending so much as a true beginning, long overdue; it was less a transformation than an intensification—a gravitic shift.
A welter of voices, near and far, present and from eons past, drowned his thoughts. Raised in praise, the voices proclaimed his reign and cheered the inauguration of a new order. Yellow eyes lifted to the night sky, he saw the trembling stars flare, and in the depth of his being he felt the power of the dark side anoint him."
Maybe I'm not interpreting it correctly, but it does say that Palpatines was the epicenter and his power increased when the dark side anointed him.
It was implied he did, actually. He arrived and all of a sudden Naboo entered the coldest climate change in its history, freezing even the lower parts of the oceans.
I know. He basically did a slower version of the Nathema ritual.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Well if you take it more logical, you would realize that Plagueis's death caused the quake that shook Coruscant's core, and yes at its epicentre was Sidious, because he was responsibile for his Sith Master's demise.
Just as S_W_LeGenD said, it was just a ripple in the Force.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
And you forgot to mention how much it took him and to his Dark Side Adepts to that on Byss.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Once again, a wormhole was not the product of strength in the Force, but deep concentration in the dark side, playing with the dark side energies around you.
And he never had control over them, those were just his boasts. Also in his Compendium of the Dark Side, he states that Anger and Will combined at perfection, shall open a volatile burst in the fabric of space and time.
If you mean Byss, then Sidious with his Dark Side Adepts did that mutually. BTW, I heard that Rakata are the cause of Byss's corruption, I think it is retconned.
Well, you do realize that Palpatine also had his dark side tech and experiments on Byss, shaping the environment.
For example, Vitiate turned Dromund Kaas into a dark side nexus rivaling or surpassing Sidious's Byss, and all of that thanks to his presence, the temples and experiments.
Whatever Sidious did with Naboo's ocean doesn't even compare to Vitiate's ritual.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Last edited by Freedon Nadd on Sep 18th, 2015 at 01:50 PM
Sep 17th, 2015 07:09 PM
Thanks Scribble!
