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Yes, he is the most powerful Sith Lord. 41 71.93%
No, there are others that should surpass him. 16 28.07%
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Why does all literature place Sidious as strongest sith lord?
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The_Tempest
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Lol'd.


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BUT SIDIOUS HAS ABSOLUTE STATEMENTS SURROUNDING G-CANON THAT CAN BE EXTRAPOLATED TO IMPLY POWER REALLY HIGH, EVEN THOUGH HIS FEATS INCLUDE BEING TKED OVER CHAIRS AND BENCHPRESSED INTO SHAFTS!

Also, at this point it's probably better to just acknowledge that within the context of G-canon, Sids is the Sith badass, and without, he is a big player, but not a martial powerhouse. THIS MAY SHOCK SOME PEOPLEZ, but I think it's a crime that his showings in RotJ/RotS were done so poorly. If GL wanted us to think that Sidious was this untouchable badass, he presented it very poorly, allowing Yoda to look in some cases superior (having Sids run away, get unbalanced, disarmed, lose the Force fight etc.) and GL likewise opted not to let the professional stuntsmen sub in for Ian and Sammy but instead let the real actors film their own duel.

The latter resulted in a rather lackluster battle that was frankly boring to watch and over before it began, and the former only cements Sidious as a benefactor of circumstance, not a Force unto himself. Either Sidious should have simply been too smart to catch/duel, or he should have been able to WTFcrush the Jedi in single combat, no exceptions. Instead, GL makes this muddy representation that makes him look relatively unimpressive on the EU stage.

And this is years after he okayed TOTJ comics, so WTF, dude?

Also, the strongest Sith is Bandon. Stop pretending otherwise.


This ignores a lot of his non-movie feats, though.

So answer the question, servant. And be sure to be detailed.

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This ignores a lot of his non-movie feats, though.

So answer the question, servant. And be sure to be detailed.

What has Sidious truly done to put himself above every single Sith Lord that ever lived? Did he move goddamn moon like Bane did?

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lol at Bane moving a moon.

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I like that the scores are tied.


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I knew that was going to happen after I said that.


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I knew that was going to happen after I said that.


Quit implying that I'm predictable. Hatur.


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I wasn't, unless you're saying you voted for Sidious..... >:[


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He had more raw Force energy than Vitiate by DE. He could stop himself from aging but was more concerned with having spare bodies in case his gets eradicated like what happened to Vitiate and Plagueis. Vitiate did cause a vortex with his drain essence ritual but Sidious and Plagueis altered the balance of the Force, then Sidious consumed Plageuis' nexus and diminished the entire Jedi order's ability to use the Force. That is a massive severing of the Force, the balance tipped to the Dark, which was what made Sidious so strong, able to beat Yoda, almost break Windu's saber with FL, and what caused that burst of energy when he died on the Death Star II.

Dying made him stronger, and he performed alchemical experiments on Byss involving mass essence drain of its inhabitants. He could have rounded a few hundred of his dark side adepts and used their essences to jump start a genocide that would increase his powers at the expense of Byss' population, he could have just remained content with Midi-chlorian manipulation, but he wanted to increase his subjects on Byss and keep them weak, he wanted to be able to come back even after death which midi-chlorian manipulation alone would be useless in. However, he did use essence drain and claimed that midi-chlorian manipulation was must useful in creating his Chrysalides. He was very much a patron of the arcane arts, he had knowledge of all kinds of sects and studied them for decades upon decades. He created Dark Side wormholes, vortexes that spewed enough energy to rip apart Super Star Destroyers and planets, to hide entire fleets in, to teleport Luke from the surface of Byss into an orbiting Wookiee prison ship.

By DE, Emperor Palpatine was more powerful than Darth Nihilus and Lord Vitiate.


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Sidious could Force-nom a planet? Since when? Oh wait, he could with a ritual over a long period of time against a planet that was not made up of Jedi and Force sensitives.

Gotcha.


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Oh wait, he could with a ritual over a long period of time against a planet that was not made up of Jedi and Force sensitives.


Sounds an awful lot like vitiate as well, except, y'know, vitiate needed the help of 8000 sith lords.

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Now some other contributors to Star Wars lore (who are possibly fanboys and fangirls of Mr. Lucas's works) have actually went out of their way to overhype some G-canon characters in the Expanded Universe such as Yoda and Sidious by labeling them as most powerful practitioners of the light and dark respectively. Among all of the authors of Star Wars lore, you will find Daniel Wallace favoring and hyping Sidious in most of his works.



I get that everyone is entitled to an opinion but the hypocrisy is amazing. Believe what you want but you are the last person on this planet that can complain about about

A) being a fanboy
B) unnecessarily hyping feats (or in your case unnecessarily hyping descriptions in lieu to a LACK of feats)
C) calling out writers because they don't share YOUR biased view.

Like believe what you want, but there's no fvcking way you don't see that you do the same exact thing you're calling out people on with regards to TOR characters. There's no point in trying to refute that either.

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Sidious can tear the fabric of space itself. Universal level power there.


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