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Darth Caedus Vs Redeemed Revan
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Nephthys
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I elaborated on that.


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S_W_LeGenD
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I elaborated on that.

Do you know that raw power is involved in both offensive and defensive use of the Force?

If Revan can shrug off extremely lethal powers, he can be just as potent in offensive ways. It takes the "most powerful" among the Jedi to tank Sith applications.

The only time Revan found his powers to be ineffective when he confronted the mighty Vitiate. The latter will crush majority of Force-users like a tin can.

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If Revan can shrug off extremely lethal powers, he can be just as potent in offensive ways.


Not necessarily. People specialise in different areas and are often better in one aspect than they are in another. Take Malgus: He was able to comfortably beat up Adraas with his offensive abilities, but struggled to block Adraas' lightning (since it was blistering his hands trying to contain it).


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Not necessarily. People specialise in different areas and are often better in one aspect than they are in another. Take Malgus: He was able to comfortably beat up Adraas with his offensive abilities, but struggled to block Adraas' lightning (since it was blistering his hands trying to contain it).


Which is a good catch, considering how powerful Malgus' lightning is too.


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Not necessarily. People specialise in different areas and are often better in one aspect than they are in another. Take Malgus: He was able to comfortably beat up Adraas with his offensive abilities, but struggled to block Adraas' lightning (since it was blistering his hands trying to contain it).

Tanking Sith lightning is as much feat of raw power (in use) as it is of mastery in defensive applications of the Force. This is a very complex feat on part of any Force-user.

A Force-user have to be both remarkably strong and an absolute master of defensive applications of the Force to directly tank Sith lightning without the use of a lightsaber. The stronger a Force-user, the greater are his chances to contain Sith lightning bursts accordingly.

A Force-user can have great knowledge of defensive applications of the Force but he will miserably fail to put such talent to effective use without considerable raw power to complement his abilities.

Every Jedi receives training in defensive applications of the Force (including Tutaminis) but only the most powerful among them can tank lethal Force powers without the use of a lightsaber.

Malgus's struggle in this kind of scenario is a sure-shot indication of how difficult this feat is to pull off for even remarkably powerful Force-users.

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Called "Sith lightning," these charges cause excruciating pain and weaken life, and it is a challenge for even the most powerful Jedi Masters to deflect such bursts.

From SWTERC (2012):

Scourge reveals to the Emperor Nyris's plot against him, presenting him with evidence of her treachery. The Emperor orders the Imperial Guard to strike against Nyris. Using the chaos of this reprisal as cover, Scourge and Meetra free Revan but are nearly stopped by Nyris. Revan's raw power in the Force bends Nyris's Sith lightning back at her, utterly destroying the Sith Lord.

Make no mistake, Revan can be extremely lethal in offensive use of the Force. In-fact, he redirected Nyriss's lightning back at her which is a sign of his enormous offensive power.

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Nephthys
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No Legend, Malgus was blocking Adraas' lightning with his lightsaber, and he still blistered his hands trying to contain it in the blade.

Go check out Malgus' respect thread. The whole fight is in there.


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Speaking of, Neph you need to add your respect threads in your profile or something, in case they get buried.


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Nephthys
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Good point. I have a few in there, but I'll update them all in.


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Same question why is c'baoth elite?
His ability to mind-control post-RoTJ Luke, his clone Luuke, Mara Jade, Leia all at once while TK influencing Luke and Luuke's duel while TKing Han Solo and Zapping Leia while going back and cancelling out all the attempts made by Mara, Luke, and Leia to resist his mind domination - up until he was forced to battle them all and was winning with nothing but Force lightning until his reserves began to empty. Mara claimed that Luke considered him to perhaps be even more of a threat than the Emperor - either way they were in the same pool. C'boath was a top tier member of the Jedi Council and proclaimed himself master, and no one disagreed. Once he turned to the dark side he grew a lot stronger, especially considering the galaxy had entered into the dark times by then, he had a lot to draw on.

If Yoda had become a Sith, there's not telling how powerful he would have become. Dooku claims he would have been stronger than Sidious as well.


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That's horse shit IMO.

Luke: Is the dark side stronger?
Yoda: No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive.

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Satele is not his daughter.... :/


No, Satele is Revan and Bastila's multi-great grand-daughter.

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No, Satele is Revan and Bastila's multi-great grand-daughter.


So is she far enough away genetically to bang?

Just asking... Don't look at me like that.


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So is she far enough away genetically to bang?

Just asking... Don't look at me like that.

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So does this come out to a draw for the both of them?


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I'm a big Revan fanboy, but the reality is - Caedus would win. No doubt about it...

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Bump

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Revan, solidly.

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Certainly Revan.


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