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Toph vs. Azula
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Nephthys
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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Just curious, why do you put Jeong over Azula and Iroh over Ozai? I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but Iroh didn't seem confident about his ability to take on Ozai (and I don't think it was just him being modest), and I don't remember what Jeong was capable of doing.


Yeah, I'd put Azula over Jeong Jeong and Ozai over Iroh. Ozai was more impressive in his fight with Aang than Iroh was attacking Ba Sing Se. Much more powerful with all the flying around and stuff. And Azula is just straight up better than Jeong Jeong.


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dunno about Azula being better than Jeong. She may very well be the better fighter, but that's not quite the same as being more powerful. Under the comet, Jeong displayed far more power and command, closer to the level of Ozai, than Azula did... exampled in how he was able to "fly" (although not as well as Ozai) and Azula only managed to get a few inches off the ground.

Even taking into account that Azula was losing her shit during the comet, which effected the way she fought, i don't think it affected her level of power output at all.


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Azula could fly even without the comet though. The only one to do it without that.

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She couldn't hover, but I think its obvious that with the comet she could have were she in better control.


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Toph and Aang couldn't even capture Azula without her bending...

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Toph and Aang couldn't even capture Azula without her bending...


Thats a whole different situation. Azula knew she was outmatched without her bending, so she resorted to running. Also, don't forget that Azula had the Dai Li agents protecting her as well.

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Azula could fly even without the comet though. The only one to do it without that.

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She couldn't hover, but I think its obvious that with the comet she could have were she in better control.
not obvious at all.

She didn't fly. All she did in that instance was propel herself off the car... that's not even close to being the same thing as projecting flame from your feet and maneuvering around like Jeong and Ozai did.


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^thumb up People like to bring up her last encounter with Zuko as a proof of his superiority. They're forgetting she was in no condition to fight. That's the only reason Zuko agreed to take her 1 on 1 in the first place.
As far as TLA firebenders go i'd say:
1. Iroh
2. Ozai
3. Jeong
4. Azula
5. Zuko
Ozai is explicitly the single most powerful firebender in the show.

Jeong Jeong might indeed be better than Azula, it's hard to say. I'd argue that if nothing else, he is the more skilled better. Azula might be more powerful though.

Also, Azula wins.


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Eh, I dunno. Azula does go toe to toe with the Avatar a few times and easily holds her own in the fights, winning a few times. Could Jeong Jeong do that? I don't think so. And everyone is giving her the edge over Toph, who is either the best or second best Earthbender in the world. Also Jeong Jeong has never displayed lightning. I always thought that Iroh, Ozai and Azula were the top 3 Firebenders there are.


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not obvious at all.

She didn't fly. All she did in that instance was propel herself off the car... that's not even close to being the same thing as projecting flame from your feet and maneuvering around like Jeong and Ozai did.


She did propel herself with her feet in The Southern Raiders. And of course it isn't close, those two were enhanced by the comet. I just don't see why Azula couldn't do it if she'd been in her right mind during the comet. Those two couldn't do it without the comet either.


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Just curious, why do you put Jeong over Azula and Iroh over Ozai? I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but Iroh didn't seem confident about his ability to take on Ozai (and I don't think it was just him being modest), and I don't remember what Jeong was capable of doing.
I put Iroh over Ozai because I believe he's more experienced and put more effort into studying firebending, including learning from the dragon masters. Ozai looks more impressive under the comet sure but IMO that's because he's all about destruction and killing things with fire while Iroh is a pacifist. I think he refused to fight Ozai because he believed that it's avatars destiny, said so himself. He didn't want it to be seen as a battle between brothers over the throne. I actually see Ozai beating him in a fight due to his ruthlessness compared to Iroh's peaceful nature, there's a good chance he wouldn't find the strength to kill his brother. Even though he's a more experienced fire bender. As for Azula compared to Jeong. Again the experience. Also that humongous wall of fire he created that blocked the entire river and stopped a bunch of military ships. Haven't seen anyone display that sort of power without the amp.

Also IMO any of those ATLA guys would destroy any LOK fire bender.


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The ATLA guys are all superior to the LOK benders. Excepting of course the bloodbenders and the Avatars in those final episodes.


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Blood benders yeah. But Aang seemed a lot more impressive to me in the avatar state than Korra. She used to get her ass kicked every time she went into the avatar state, Aang used to bust up cities.


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I'm talking about Korra when she was fighting Avatar Unalaq. That was a fairly crazy fight.


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Yeah, A: TLA benders are much more impressive than LoK benders in general... Korra is kinda lame compared too Aang IMO...

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Korra >>>>>>>> Aang (kid)

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What? Aang shits on Korra all day in every category. Except ****ing up. She does that better than any Avatar aside from maybe Wan the original.

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The previous Waterbending Avatar was pretty shit too.


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What? Aang shits on Korra all day in every category. Except ****ing up. She does that better than any Avatar aside from maybe Wan the original.


You said it!

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The surfer guy who got his gfs face taken by Koh? And only used the Avatar State to make killer waves brah?

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Yeah. He was so arragant and lazy he let his wife get iced.


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Blood benders yeah. But Aang seemed a lot more impressive to me in the avatar state than Korra. She used to get her ass kicked every time she went into the avatar state, Aang used to bust up cities.


Shouldn't Korra's AS be more powerful then Aang's due to the way it works? Atterall, she should have all the experience and power that Aang' AS had, plus a bit more.


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