I have to disagree with this, at least concerning the X-Men. While I would absolutely love an X-Men roster that followed the source material I don't think Marvel would do them the just that fans want them to. The reason being is that in Disney's cartoons/Marvel's current comic line, the mutant brand has being getting the short end of the stick: specifically AvX and the recent Inhuman/Mutant conflict.
If Fan4stic is anything to go by, Fox would rather loose millions just to spite Marvel. I can only hope things changes as I can't imagine even their most daft execs. would ignore the possibilities given Deadpool's success.
Wasn't gonna bother with this at first, but screw it. Just to kill some time...
1. Apocalypse was not weak in this, for reasons pointed out, just different with how most of his powers were executed. For a weak Apocalypse, see the alternate comic continuities and such that he got jobbed to hell in, like House of M. He got great treatment here compared to the disgraceful showings he had there (and disgraceful is putting it lightly).
2. Wouldn't really call it Beast curing his affliction, just temporarily suppressing it. He's a scientist, so could see him doing it, but I'd hope that after some development, he embraces his true self and stops doing that, just as how Charles stopped taking what Hank gave him so he could still use his legs in the previous film.
3. Storm, when she was younger and before she met Xavier, actually did start out as a thief when she was growing up on the streets. Did you not know this from the comics, or just forgot? Either way, I liked how they referenced her tough childhood prior Apoc making her a horseman. Was a fine setup for it.
4. Which isn't dissimilar to a lot of Apocalypse's other plans, though could've been done better.
5. Meh. Kinda agree on Jean, and Blob I never cared too much for, but it was a quick lackluster cameo, yeah.
6. Believe Apoc's awakening had to do with the healing ability he gained after that last power transfer before he got trapped there, but yeah. Him awakening when he did was kinda random since there wasn't anything else that really seem to have caused it.
7. If you're referring to Quicksilver not telling Magneto that he's his son, then yeah. That was dumb.
8. ... Okay? And well speaking of Mystique, just to add on to what you were saying, they still didn't reference her being Nightcrawler's mother, like in X2. They did the family reference for Quicksilver and Magneto in these movies, but not them still.
It is sad that X-Men is the longest running comic film franchise (with as many movies as it's gotten since year 2000), when it could be done so much better, though there are still some enjoyable things to salvage from it.
It's not just about the 90's roster. It's about the characterisation and looks of the roster they have. Cyclops should be the Captain America of the team, and Wolverine should be a bit of a psycho really. And Apocalypse should be... Well the Apoc from the comics. Just like Thanos is taken straight from the comics.
But yeah might as well accept it. Fox ain't ever giving this property up. Heck F4 has flopped for them twice now, and they won't even give that up!
FF has too many supporting characters that would benefit Marvel at the box office that Marvel would dominate the theaters even more than they are now. It'll eat away at anything Fox puts out superhero movie or not. At this point it just sucks. What were Marvel lawyers and decision makers thinking when they wrote up this contract of sale???
They know that which means they know they're standing on a potential gold mine themselves and yet to this day they've:
Done literally nothing with Galactus (and no the big cloud doesn't count).
Given us Silver Surfer one time, and never again.
And they're still too afraid to have Doom as 1) A ruthless dictator and 2) a man with genius level intellect who has an armored battle suit to fight with. How could they STILL be so scared to make the main villain an evil Iron Man?
It's like either use what you've got or f*** off Fox! Let Marvel make money from it if you're too scared to touch it.
If they give it back, when Marvel makes money it could/-would take money away from any Fox films at the box office during the same time. They're just going to sit on it.
...The only reason the X-Men/mutant brand are getting the short end of the stick in the current Disney cartoon/Marvel comic lineup is because Marvel/Disney's limiting X-Men in those mediums to stick it to Fox/spite them.
Can't even create new mutants now?
Disney/Marvel and Fox's battle over the entertainment rights to the X-Franchise dug the X-Men's grave...
Same with how Fantastic 4's dead and Fox just sitting on the property to stick it to Marvel.
The thing is with Disney/Marvel's current treatment of the X-Men in their comics, I'm not sure they would really get the justice they deserve over there either. The last thing I want to see is mutants being killed off just to make Inhumans more popular in live-action form.
I would hope that Fox at least tries to incorporate what made Deadpool successful when they eventually have to release another F4 to spite Marvel.
...As I just showed in my above post, Disney/Marvel's current treatment of the X-Men is only done to spite Fox. If they were to get the entertainment rights for X-Men, they'd have no reason to shit on them in a movie or in the other mediums anymore.
Just watched it. A ton of imperfections I could nitpick if I were inclined (from plot ot acting to missed opportunitites) but overall was very entertained.
One can easily find things wrong with it if one wants to look. Tons of things wrong with it. When I start to think about it, I can name immediately find multiple wrong things top of my head.
Bottom line of a movie, after all, is to entertain. And this movie entertained me. After all, preferences tend to be subjective. But I certainly liked this movie and would never call it poop. /shrug
I tend to use my wife as a metric when watching movies (as I know she tends to be unbiased in these kind of things). Well, she fell asleep mid-way in BvS (had to nudge her awake a few times). She did not do so in BvS and went "it's okay" in the end.
Admittedly when I first posted that I didn't see the link. But the past 4 years Marvel's done some pretty questionable stuff with their characters in other mediums so I'm still on the fence.
Just watched DOFP again, the Rogue Cut. I definitely found it to be the better film. It seems most people agree, this movie has a 48% on Rotten Tomatoes and DOFP has a 91% lol.
DOFP also earned 750 million, but curiously also had a budget of 200 million, while Apocalypse apparently only had a budget of 178 million.
EDIT: Also I can't be the only one getting tired of mutants whining about how hard life is.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
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I'm sure Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, Halley Berry and Ellen Page added a few bucks to DOFP's budget that the lesser known people in Apocalypse didn't.
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