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Again, ABC Logic.

"Mace Windu beat Sidious, therefore he can beat Yoda."

Nah.
Yeah, beating someone who is better than Dante in every way means she can beat Dante.

Easily.


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Agreed on the wrong fighter losing.

The only thing MK beats Street in is gameplay. (Outside of the metagame. Fuk "pro" elitists, MK is way more fun.)
Nah, Street Fighter is better. You just don't have the mechanics.


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Nah, Street Fighter is better. You just don't have the mechanics.


I'm ok with the shoto's. And some charger's (Guile and Bison, mainly.)

Not saying Street isn't fun, or mechanically the better game. It's the goto game for competition.

But Mortal Kombat 9/X is a lot more fun for casual play, what with the gory gimmick's and quirky characters/setting, and easier learning curve. (By that standard, I guess Smash Bros. beats them both..)


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I'm ok with the shoto's. And some charger's (Guile and Bison, mainly.)

Not saying Street isn't fun, or mechanically the better game. It's the goto game for competition.

But Mortal Kombat 9/X is a lot more fun for casual play, what with the gory gimmick's and quirky characters/setting, and easier learning curve. (By that standard, I guess Smash Bros. beats them both..)
Nah, Street Fighter is above both in mechanics, but falls below BlazBlue and Guilty Gear, which are the true mechanical games.


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So what about the Red vs Blue?

They kind of headed off the fan response at the end. Me, I'm not exactly unhappy with the result.

Sure, you could argue if Meta could beat Tex, he should beat Carolina, but Tex is programmed to fail..


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No one cared about that lame episode


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No one cared about that lame episode


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Calling bullshit on the last one: DEADPOOL WASN'T DEAD!

May as well start calling it KO battle, and ask why Superman has to actually kill a completely overmatched Goku, instead of knocking him out.


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Calling bullshit on the last one: DEADPOOL WASN'T DEAD!

May as well start calling it KO battle, and ask why Superman has to actually kill a completely overmatched Goku, instead of knocking him out.


Superman is completely overmatched by Goku, not the other way around.

Superman couldn't even deal with a Kid Goku at the beginning of the manga in term of combat speed, he doesn't have the feats.

His weakness / vulnerability to Chi completely turns the tables in Goku's favor, even at the very beginning of the manga.

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Not really my point...


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Not really my point...


i've got it.

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Calling bullshit on the last one: DEADPOOL WASN'T DEAD!

May as well start calling it KO battle, and ask why Superman has to actually kill a completely overmatched Goku, instead of knocking him out.


It's called Death Battle not KO Battle for a reason and Superman vs Goku 2 was the most accurate portrayal of how a fight would go, sans the killing part. They did a good research and if one knows both, comics and mangas, the outcome is reasonable.

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It's called Death Battle not KO Battle for a reason and Superman vs Goku 2 was the most accurate portrayal of how a fight would go, sans the killing part.


That's the worst portrayal I've ever seen in my life.

They showed an incredible amount of bias and created their own versions of Goku and Superman so Superman can win in their Elseworld.

Mixing-up differents alternate versions of Superman with a very personal interpretation of his feats... Come on... It was beyond ridiculous.

[QUOTEThey did a good research and if one knows both, comics and mangas, the outcome is reasonable.[/QUOTE]

No.

They clearly nitpicked, cherry picked, misinterpretated feats on purpose or not, showed bias, cognitive dissonance and Red Herring in the form of completely useless and inaccurate fan-calculations.

The climax is that their version of Superman vs their version of Goku whom doesn't exist in the comics / manga could walk through Goku's Kamehameha unharmed and tag Goku despite Superman being a slow ass and unskilled in combat.

They completely forgot Superman's weakness / vulnerability to KI, which block Superman's power lile a Red Sun and ignores his invulnerability like Magic, on purpose or just because they are incredibely ignorant.

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Goku in base form would godstomps Superman effortlessly with Superman having 0 chance to touch him in combat.

Superman has been badly hurt by far less than Goku's power.

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Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
It's called Death Battle not KO Battle for a reason and Superman vs Goku 2 was the most accurate portrayal of how a fight would go, sans the killing part. They did a good research and if one knows both, comics and mangas, the outcome is reasonable.


Agreed, and by itself the Deadpool vs Dante is fine.

It's just, every other Death Battle that had a winner also had a death. This is the first time someone was declared KO'd that didn't die (Since even turning Deadpool's head to confetti won't kill him.)


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That's the worst portrayal I've ever seen in my life.

They showed an incredible amount of bias and created their own versions of Goku and Superman so Superman can win in their Elseworld.

Mixing-up differents alternate versions of Superman with a very personal interpretation of his feats... Come on... It was beyond ridiculous.

[QUOTEThey did a good research and if one knows both, comics and mangas, the outcome is reasonable.


No.

They clearly nitpicked, cherry picked, misinterpretated feats on purpose or not, showed bias, cognitive dissonance and Red Herring in the form of completely useless and inaccurate fan-calculations.

The climax is that their version of Superman vs their version of Goku whom doesn't exist in the comics / manga could walk through Goku's Kamehameha unharmed and tag Goku despite Superman being a slow ass and unskilled in combat.

They completely forgot Superman's weakness / vulnerability to KI, which block Superman's power lile a Red Sun and ignores his invulnerability like Magic, on purpose or just because they are incredibely ignorant.

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Goku in base form would godstomps Superman effortlessly with Superman having 0 chance to touch him in combat.

Superman has been badly hurt by far less than Goku's power.
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Yep. Hell, Kids Goku could probably beat him after drinking the water.


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No.

They clearly nitpicked, cherry picked, misinterpretated feats on purpose or not, showed bias, cognitive dissonance and Red Herring in the form of completely useless and inaccurate fan-calculations.

The climax is that their version of Superman vs their version of Goku whom doesn't exist in the comics / manga could walk through Goku's Kamehameha unharmed and tag Goku despite Superman being a slow ass and unskilled in combat.

They completely forgot Superman's weakness / vulnerability to KI, which block Superman's power lile a Red Sun and ignores his invulnerability like Magic, on purpose or just because they are incredibely ignorant.

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Goku in base form would godstomps Superman effortlessly with Superman having 0 chance to touch him in combat.

Superman has been badly hurt by far less than Goku's power.


Yep. Hell, Kids Goku could probably beat him after drinking the water. [/B][/QUOTE]


Clearly.

Superman is too slow and unskilled to even touch Kid Goku.

Nobody with a bit of understanding will never buy using the travel speed as being similar to the combat speed.

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Lol...they have a recent big event for Superman. I think it's next week he will be fighting against Slade.

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Kid Goku kills him.


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Lol...they have a recent big event for Superman. I think it's next week he will be fighting against Slade.

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Kid Goku kills him.


I think that Kid Goku first kamehameha will disintegrate Superman.

Imagine the power of the kamehameha + the effects of Red Sun + the fact that the Chi is the basics of both the Quantum Field and Magic that will ignore Supes durability...

But even without that KG could beat him easily.

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Lol...they have a recent big event for Superman. I think it's next week he will be fighting against Slade.

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Kid Goku kills him.


What, in the comics?

This already happen in the post crisis era. Their "fight" was just Slade playing keep away with Superman.

Golden Guardian actually put up a better fight. smile

If Slade can do anything at all, it says more about how uber he is now, instead of how weak Superman is.


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What, in the comics?

This already happen in the post crisis era. Their "fight" was just Slade playing keep away with Superman.

Golden Guardian actually put up a better fight. smile

If Slade can do anything at all, it says more about how uber he is now, instead of how weak Superman is.


Same Slade got stalemated by Batman and crushed by Lobo. smile


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