This is pushing poor Logan to his limit :/, Captain Canada doesn't deserve such a fate. I love Wolverine and his healing factor does make him damn near immortal but the Phoenix Force gun killed him by burning him down on a molecular level, Logan was finally happy he found death and almost got to meet his mother again before Spider Man brought him back with a Cosmic Cube which infuriated Wolverine cause he was finally at peace. Only thing is idk if that was 616 but I think it's been proven multiple times Logan is an awesome dude who's been through hell and back but through a load of sh*t he can be killed, hasn't Magneto ended poor Wolvie's life a few times? Still due to his powers but I mean still he can be killed.
I'd say he could regen but after so long it would be getting a bit much, although if Goku let Wolverine take a free shot like at his throat it would be lethal cause his claws would still be able to pierce him (those things are legendary at what they can bring down).
Yeah though, short answer is it may overtax him if he isn't being portrayed at his highest levels (I'm talking like when he and Gladiator stalemated over days of fighting and the time being reduced to a skeleton and coming back) but after so long everything has its limit.
Goku has trained for long periods of time without rest much less sleep.
And Logan's HF can be overtaxed. Goku is easily one of the people capable of doing so. And Logan's HF isn't that impressive nowadays. It's awesome, but it's a lot weaker than it has been.
No, he's not. The physiological/biological issues with having a metal coated skeleton have been explained away before with it being Beta Adamantium which does not inhibit the natural biochemistry of his bones.
Anyways, he's survived the nuking of Hiroshima, repeated incinerations, so I am not sure exactly how Goku is going to supposed to kill him by just blasting him continuously. Wolverine on the hand could conceivably kill Goku with a properly connected strike, and even if he never connects, he can outlast Goku in a war of attrition.
It which case it has to be the former explanation, or one similar to it. i.e: his bones remain porous enough to allow blood vessels, and therefore other potential dangers, inside. You can't allow natural biological functions without that part remaining an issue, but if that's the handwave, I suppose it's acceptable. Unless Beta Adamantium is some kind of living metal that actually takes over some of his functions, I suppose.
The current argument is that Wolverine healing factor has a limit. It has been overtaxed before, allowing some attacks he might otherwise heal from to render him unconscious. Sure, he's taken a nuke, but it isn't as though he's done it with ease, or that he could take multiple ones in quick succession before he has fully recovered from the first.
Goku can easily destroy him until he stops getting back up.
How is Goku not a true immortal. Even in death he retains his body and is actually stronger with is ae body. He can fight better dead then alive. Goku can leave the realm of the gods while dead using instant transmission to help the living world just like he has done before. He can also leave the living world and to to the realm of the kais while still living
Then ontop of it all he has the dragon balls
Goku is an immortal being. He cannot be "killed"
Concession Accepted..
Goku wins
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1) I was addressing comments made in regards to Wolverine, not Goku.
2)Prove that Goku is immortal. Lol, he doesn't retain his body, that's merely the way how the DBZverse's afterlife works. Going by this silly line of thought, we can claim that King Kai's pet monkey is also immortal, or that pretty much anyone who has ever died in that series is immortal. You don't even know how to comprehend things properly.
3)How the hell is possessing Dragonballs supposed to make him immortal? One needs to make a wish for that to happen, and Goku has never wished for immortality. Not to mention that he doesn't even possess them anymore anyways.
4)You just confirmed that you're legitimately retarded.
That particular argument depends on which particular story-arc one wants to refer while arguing for or against Wolverine's feats. True, his hf has some low showings across comics, but he also has stupendous high-end showings which would make withstanding any amount of punishment Goku could mete out seem like a walk in the park.
If we're to go down the road of lowballing one character in order to give the other a win in this thread however, I'd like to point out that SS4 Goku has very poor piercing/cutting durability and has been cut by an ice shard iirc. Based on that, if Wolverine makes a clean connect, he could conceivably gut or decapitate Goku with that one strike.
Goku cannot simply leave the afterlife whenever he wants. Old Kai had to give up his life in order to revive Goku before he could leave. So while it is true that the living can enter and leave the afterlife freely, the dead are not able to do so.
I suppose, but can you give some examples? How many times has Wolverine actually been reduced to a skeleton and come back in a timely manner? Or even a non-timely manner; I'm just curious as to what these feats are, as all I ever seem to get is vague references like 'a nuke.' Goku is rather beyond a simple nuke in power.
Sure, it's not as if even Goku's best durability feats are enough to stop Wolverine's claws. One clean strike would likely kill Goku regardless of highballing that. Still, it's not as if Wolverine will ever hit Goku before he has been disintegrated roughly 2800 times per day. Because y'know. Flying.
And really, all I need is for someone to prove that Wolverine's healing factor will actually be able to stand regenerating his entire body 2800 times.
EDIT: Perhaps I should specify that last request to include a 'in quick succession' stipulation. I'm sure he has lived long enough to regenerate quite a few times over the centuries.
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An ice shard created by an insanely powerful dark dragon? Lets not pretend it was just ordinary ice when his brothers attacks were compared to the sun.
Also there is no way Logan will land a hit on Goku unless he just stands there and does nothing.
Last edited by KingD19 on Dec 17th, 2013 at 09:44 AM
Dude Goku does what he wants when he wants, if he asks Shenron how to become a God he becomes one..If he wants to use instant trasmission to save gohan while he was dead like he did in The Movie Bojack he will..or when he came back to help in brollys revenge..mind you he was "dead" in both these movies.
Goku is immortal in the DBZ universe. You think you killed him but really you just made him happy cause he gets to train without Chichi up his ass..hes died how many times and he always does what he always does..he does Goku and he is very good at fighting..claws and anger issues do not affect him, he just over comes...on to the next..
He is Goku an Immortal
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