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they are omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent in every way.


If this is true, why did you make this thread?

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Elder Scrolls verse is being slept on, I mean we don't even know who the Ideal Masters are but they seem to be powerful enough to not give a f*ck what daedric princes think lol.

To be fair even if all the Elder Gods stats check out, it says they can't be killed not that they can't be hurt, also it doesnt state they cant be BFRed. Also it mentions they were created by something which isn't named so they certainly aren't almighty, powerful yes but not like Pre-Retcon Beyonder or TOAA levels.

Padomay (Sithis) existed before all else and was the one who brought about the chaos to Anu which created everything in the Elder Scrolls verse, so at the very worst it's a stalemate but I still stand behind the two prime dieties of the ES verse.


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Nope. Daedric princes can operate out of their own oblivion realm. Runescape gods have no way of breaking into there.
So the Princes hide then in their little Oblivion Realm while the Elder God's take turns playing Catch with Alduin, creating Chaos all over Tamriel, leaving the Nine Divines no choice but to stop them their self, and losing in the process. Then the other omnipresent beings of RS come and help the Elder God's of RS take over Tamriel, and with no one to stop them, eventually the world. :P


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Respond to me you craven whore.


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So you made an intentional spite thread?

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If this is true, why did you make this thread?
Because its fun to troll people who think everyone in Runescape is weak. Just by the game, we've already established that when compared to Runescape, LOTR dies pretty damn quick, then when Elder Scrolls steps in is when the real fight starts, because the Elder Scrolls has an Omnipresent being known as Sithis, which is the one that would pose the biggest threat to the Elder God's.


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Uh, how it LotR dying quickly. Eru Iluvatar is also omnipotent.

So, you failed at creating a spite thread. Congratz.

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Because its fun to troll people who think everyone in Runescape is weak.
So because you're a stupid son of a fat whore.

Got it.

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Elder Scrolls verse is being slept on, I mean we don't even know who the Ideal Masters are but they seem to be powerful enough to not give a f*ck what daedric princes think lol.

To be fair even if all the Elder Gods stats check out, it says they can't be killed not that they can't be hurt, also it doesnt state they cant be BFRed. Also it mentions they were created by something which isn't named so they certainly aren't almighty, powerful yes but not like Pre-Retcon Beyonder or TOAA levels.

Padomay (Sithis) existed before all else and was the one who brought about the chaos to Anu which created everything in the Elder Scrolls verse, so at the very worst it's a stalemate but I still stand behind the two prime dieties of the ES verse.
Alright, now let's say that Unknown Thing that created the Elder God's joins the battle as well. Also, if they can't be killed, then how do Sithis or the Nine Divines plan to beat them.


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Uh, how it LotR dying quickly. Eru Iluvatar is also omnipotent.

So, you failed at creating a spite thread. Congratz.
Great, so it's three omnipotent beings versus one, not to mention the one that created them in the first place, Eru is overwhelmed, maybe not killed, but definitely defeated, then the Elder God's play catch with Sauron like they did with Alduin and flick Morgoth so hard that his Balls contract into his body.


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So because you're a stupid son of a fat whore.

Got it.
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Great, so it's three omnipotent beings versus one, not to mention the one that created them in the first place, Eru is overwhelmed, maybe not killed, but definitely defeated, then the Elder God's play catch with Sauron like they did with Alduin and flick Morgoth so hard that his Balls contract into his body.


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It doesn't matter how many omnipotents you throw at another omnipotent. Neither side is being overwhelmed unless they aren't truly omnipotent.

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Alright, now let's say that Unknown Thing that created the Elder God's joins the battle as well. Also, if they can't be killed, then how do Sithis or the Nine Divines plan to beat them.
For one I had a feeling you'd bring that up but to be fair it can't really be included, it doesn't even have a name for one. At least wait until the series brings it into view, it's kinda like people using Whis from BOTG in a debate when....we have no idea what he can actually do...This being may be a TAD more powerful or overwhelmingly so, we have no idea. Again Sithis existed before everything, not necessarily evil just nothingness and the Void, he and his brother Anu are enough to deal with any threat but when you start getting on these levels and going on "What If" it just gets mind numbingly repetitive we're basically stumbling in the dark, it's essentially TOAA vs The Presence and just becomes a who you like more thing.

Like I said at worst it's a stalemate, and with an Omnipotent being in LOTR you may be looking at a 3 way stalemate.


They can't be killed but no one's killed Sithis or his bro either, the only option when you get into this stuff is BFR but if you're dealing with beings of this magnitude anyone could probably port back, so it's an endless loop. Knock outs are considered a loss though and it's not killing so that would be another option these beings could use but I have trouble imagining an omnipotent slugfest it just feels...wrong.

It's best to chalk it up as a stalemate before everyone gets a brain aneurism.


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Wait, the Elder Gods were made by a different being... Lol, then they likely aren't even omnipotent.

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It doesn't matter how many omnipotents you throw at another omnipotent. Neither side is being overwhelmed unless they aren't truly omnipotent.
So they just have a never-ending battle. Great, then all the normal runescape gods come in and **** LOTR's world up 10 times over. You are overlooking the fact that Runescape his tons of God-Level entities that LOTR just can't stand up to, Guthix takes down Morgoth, with slight difficulty, and then Zaros defeats Sauron, Saradomin blasts Gandalf away pretty easily, Zilyana beats Aragorn, Armadyl and Bandos solo the Nazgul, the Barrows Brothers take down the Witch-King, the PC (Player Character) defeats the rest of the fellowship with actually a lot of difficulty. For every character LOTR has, Runescape can 1-Up them every step of the way.


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laughing out loud

Looks like someone is butthurt. Had bad experiences with Tolkien fans before?

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For one I had a feeling you'd bring that up but to be fair it can't really be included, it doesn't even have a name for one. At least wait until the series brings it into view, it's kinda like people using Whis from BOTG in a debate when....we have no idea what he can actually do...This being may be a TAD more powerful or overwhelmingly so, we have no idea. Again Sithis existed before everything, not necessarily evil just nothingness and the Void, he and his brother Anu are enough to deal with any threat but when you start getting on these levels and going on "What If" it just gets mind numbingly repetitive we're basically stumbling in the dark, it's essentially TOAA vs The Presence and just becomes a who you like more thing.

Like I said at worst it's a stalemate, and with an Omnipotent being in LOTR you may be looking at a 3 way stalemate.


They can't be killed but no one's killed Sithis or his bro either, the only option when you get into this stuff is BFR but if you're dealing with beings of this magnitude anyone could probably port back, so it's an endless loop. Knock outs are considered a loss though and it's not killing so that would be another option these beings could use but I have trouble imagining an omnipotent slugfest it just feels...wrong.

It's best to chalk it up as a stalemate before everyone gets a brain aneurism.
Alright, I can live with that. Just the Omnipotent beings stalemate though, besides that, LOTR is outclassed on either side.


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Looks like someone is butthurt. Had bad experiences with Tolkien fans before?
What are you talking about? I'm calm right now, broseph.


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So the Princes hide then in their little Oblivion Realm while the Elder God's take turns playing Catch with Alduin, creating Chaos all over Tamriel, leaving the Nine Divines no choice but to stop them their self, and losing in the process. Then the other omnipresent beings of RS come and help the Elder God's of RS take over Tamriel, and with no one to stop them, eventually the world. :P


Yes. The Princes kick back in their realms after Sheograth has turned the Elder Gods into concubines for his dining halls once they realize how weaksauce Runescape magic is.


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