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Who is more feared in their world; Sauron or Ganondorf ?
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And because she had the power to fight, she fought. You can be scared and still fight.

Which he cast, meaning it's due to him.

Greater number, but not total percentage, actually. There is one person who will stand up to Ganondorf unafraid, but Sauron has armies willing to fight him.

There is no evidence she feared him at all. She wasn't stupid and knew to take him on she needed power. She couldn't even beat Zant prior to her powerup.

Zant cast it. laughing out loud

Two people stood up to him in a much smaller number. Very weak percenatage compared to Sauron.

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There is no evidence she feared him at all. She wasn't stupid and knew to take him on she needed power. She couldn't even beat Zant prior to her powerup.

That's evidence she was afraid.

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Zant cast it.

They both did.

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Two people stood up to him in a much smaller number. Very weak percenatage compared to Sauron.

2 people out of 100 is 2%

100 people out of 1000 is 10%

Ganondorf's coming out ahead.

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That's evidence she was afraid.

They both did.

2 people out of 100 is 2%

100 people out of 1000 is 10%

Ganondorf's coming out ahead.

No, it isn't. It is like bringing a gun to a fight in which your opponent is armed. Intelligence.

Zant is the one who cast it against the people and the one who took over Hyrule.

False since there were far more people in Lotr. Three people who saw Dorf weren't even scared of him. Link took him right down.

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No, it isn't. It is like bringing a gun to a fight in which your opponent is armed. Intelligence.

Healthy fear.

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Zant is the one who cast it against the people and the one who took over Hyrule.

As directed to by Ganondorf. You don't think the Nazghul and orc armies are part of the reason Sauron is feared?

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False since there were far more people in Lotr. Three people who saw Dorf weren't even scared of him. Link took him right down.

It's not false. LotR has more people, but it also has far more people willing to stand up to Sauron.

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Healthy fear.

As directed to by Ganondorf. You don't think the Nazghul and orc armies are part of the reason Sauron is feared?

It's not false. LotR has more people, but it also has far more people willing to stand up to Sauron.

She didn't act afraid of him. What makes you say she was scared ?

That doesn't matter Zant did so.

They all know to fear Sauron as without him there is no army.

They all feared Sauron unlike those who stood up to Dorf. He was also an unknown for the most part who was soundly defeated by one little guy in fair combat.

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She didn't act afraid of him. What makes you say she was scared ?

Her speech in the desert, and she showed fear against Zant.

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That doesn't matter Zant did so.

They all know to fear Sauron as without him there is no army.

Same with Ganondorf.

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They all feared Sauron unlike those who stood up to Dorf. He was also an unknown for the most part who was soundly defeated by one little guy in fair combat.

Most of that fight was 3 on 1 with Light Spirits helping. So actually closer to 7 on 1. And he was feared despite being unknown.

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Her speech in the desert, and she showed fear against Zant.

Same with Ganondorf.

Most of that fight was 3 on 1 with Light Spirits helping. So actually closer to 7 on 1. And he was feared despite being unknown.

Zant isn't Dorf. Wtf man.

Link, Midna, nor Zelda feared him. Just the sages did and they were sissies.

Dorf had a horse and used phantoms to battle. The spirits were just weapons. In the end it was a one on one fight in which Link resoundingly won.

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Zant isn't Dorf. Wtf man.

I feel like you're not reading my posts. Fearing Zant is the same as fearing Ganondorf.

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Link, Midna, nor Zelda feared him. Just the sages did and they were sissies.

Midna and Zelda feared him, as id everyone else who was afraid of the "nameless evil."

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Dorf had a horse and used phantoms to battle. The spirits were just weapons. In the end it was a one on one fight in which Link resoundingly won.

Only after a knock down, drag out fight with 2 other people helping Link and exploiting Ganondorf's weaknesses. You really think that was a fair fight?

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Re: Who is more feared in their world; Sauron or Ganondorf ?

Considering the high council will barely speak of his name..

Sauron is the most feared.

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I feel like you're not reading my posts. Fearing Zant is the same as fearing Ganondorf.

Midna and Zelda feared him, as id everyone else who was afraid of the "nameless evil."

Only after a knock down, drag out fight with 2 other people helping Link and exploiting Ganondorf's weaknesses. You really think that was a fair fight?

No, it isn't since they are different beings and the fact Zant had a personal history with Midna.

No, they didn't as they took him on and showed no fear in his presence.

Yes, considering Dorf had an army aiding him along with Zant. Odds were against link.

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No, it isn't since they are different beings and the fact Zant had a personal history with Midna.

As a direct result of Ganondorf.

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No, they didn't as they took him on and showed no fear in his presence.

Both did show fear.

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Yes, considering Dorf had an army aiding him along with Zant. Odds were against link.

Ganondorf had neither an army nor Zant with him during that fight. Link did have Zelda, Midna, and the Light Spirits actively helping him.

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I would say Sauron, but that is mostly because it's my impression that only a few actually knows that Ganondorf exist. Else it would be hard to call imo.

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As a direct result of Ganondorf.

Both did show fear.

Ganondorf had neither an army nor Zant with him during that fight. Link did have Zelda, Midna, and the Light Spirits actively helping him.

That doesn't matter as it is Zant not Dorf.

No, they didn't.

Dorf has the top of power. He also used Zelda's lifeless body against him. What a coward. In the end Link overpowered and crushed him in combat.

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Cute. I have nothing to take back, in Twilight Princess Ganondorf's existence was a secret, people can't fear what they don't know exists, so Sauron is more feared in LOTR than Ganondorf is in TP.

What amuses me is that somehow this simple fact seems to get your rocks off. Why is that?

Well, to be fair, Sauron was never legitimately in LOTR, right? Isildur kinda cheap-shotted him. :/

Whereas, Ganon, was defeated countless times by Link.

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Well, to be fair, Sauron was never legitimately in LOTR, right? Isildur kinda cheap-shotted him. :/

Whereas, Ganon, was defeated countless times by Link.

Lolwat? Isildur was getting ****ed up when he cut the finger off of Sauron. Link, who is so far beyond Isildur it's kind of funny, only manages wins over Ganondorf because he has Fi.

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Lolwat? Isildur was getting ****ed up when he cut the finger off of Sauron. Link, who is so far beyond Isildur it's kind of funny, only manages wins over Ganondorf because he has Fi.

False. Link beat him in fair combat whereas Sauron was toying with Isildur.

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False. Link beat him in fair combat whereas Sauron was toying with Isildur.

You're bad at this.

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You're bad at this.

You try to ignore the context or his point. Link beat his ass. Sauron was toying with Isildur.

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You try to ignore the context or his point. Link beat his ass. Sauron was toying with Isildur.

The opposite is true, you're trying to ignore context. Sauron was felled by a man, Ganondorf required the power of Fi to be stopped.

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The opposite is true, you're trying to ignore context. Sauron was felled by a man, Ganondorf required the power of Fi to be stopped.

Did Fi even exist at that point ? The biased just make crap up. A man he toyed with later died due to the ring which is Sauron.

A boy crushed Ganondorf in fair combat.

Man>boy.

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