Ditto. I've been saying it since b4 the movie came out in the GL movie thread
That's understandable. You're a fan of the comics & also a fan of Hal. Take that out of the equation & look at it as a movie exec who wants to get that GA money(the money that matters the absolute most. Comic fanbase simply isn't big enough to sustain a franchise). John's got the most pros & the fewest cons out of all the GLs.
Huh? I'm a fan of most of the mediums DC does stuff in, not just comics. John even used to be my favourite GL.
I don't agree, tbh. Is he more recognised due to animated shows? Sure.
That in itself isn't enough, though.
Look at someone like say, Aquaman. If they were going to adapt him for a movie and stuck to cartoons for their inspiration, he'd either be a corny, useless outside of water guy with fishy friends. Or, he'd be a long-haired, bearded badass with a hook hand.
Yet DC wouldn't make either. They'd go with the current, most badass version of the character because that's the one they want to portray on screen.
With GL, they could go with Hal, John, Guy or Kyle. They all have their pluses and minuses. John has just as many as the others, imo.
Would I hate seeing John as GL? No. Of course not. I'd just prefer Hal.
What DC wants to push isn't always best. The GL movie proves that. After Hal's film flopping so hard, WB needs to call an audible on this one.
I really don't see John having any cons for GA consumption that aren't intrinsic to all the Earth GLs.
John's pros:
Most positive exposure to the GA.
More suitable look for live action. No silly green domino mask.
Provides most distance from Hal's film.
Adds diversity and solves Cyborg "problem".
John's cons:??
Hal's pros:??
Hal's cons:
Extremely negative exposure. Hal's film was a critical& financial failure.
Look isn't ideal for live action.
Unlikely that any big names will want a role that even Reynolds doesn't want anymore.
Guy's pros:
Look is more suitable for live action.
Provides some distance from Hal's film.
Guy's cons:
Not much GA exposure.
Kyle's pros:??
Kyle's cons:
Look can easily be confused with Hal.
Look isn't ideal for live action.
Minimal exposure to GA
First, if they want to do him justice at all, he's going to be the most expensive lantern to use due to how his constructs work.
Second, his origin story. It's awful, so needs massive re-working.
Third, there's the "Cyborg problem" as you called it. It can be as much a negative as a positive, imo, especially seeing as, with Hal having had exposure before (hell, people still remember Super Friends) John could easily just be seen as a "black Hal Jordan", which would suck. I know the Justice League is pretty white. I know that they need to add some diversity. But if they're going to involve John, at least put some merit to it.
Or are we supposed to believe that they're solely putting him in because he was the GL in the show? Not for a second, personally.
A mask? Really? You really hate the mask that much?
Why is the "look" not ideal for live action? It's no less silly than any other Lantern's, imo.
Big names would take it in a heartbeat, if the offer was right.
I honestly think John's "exposure" is being drastically overstated, tbh.
They can scale back on constructs like in JLU. Have him build only when a blast to the face isn't enough. Focus on a Marine's zest for efficiency. They'll save money by avoiding the silly CGI mask &costume too.
Writers write. They're gonna retool things regardless. These movies always change things w/the intent of making things smoother for the GA.
Hal's flop and complaints from people that they "turned GL white" show that his previous exposure didn't amount to much. John being seen as a black Hal is highly unlikely, especially if they get him right.
We should probably believe they're putting him in because the one they bet on before was an abject failure that lost them a fortune and they want to try something that might make some money this time around. They were gonna use John in JL:Mortal before all of this mess happened.
The concept is a hard enough sell to begin with. You don't want to add silly stuff on top of it. I can't think of any crossover icons who wear that as their only means of disguising their face. We don't have any successful movie franchises that feature it. GLs are space cops. Cops don't wear domino masks. Not even the space ones
It's silly looking in live action. The GLs who don't wear them don't look as silly as the ones who do.
You'd have to pay them a flat out ridiculous amount of money. Money that might be better spent on other things.
It's positive &popular &ongoing. Can't say that for the one they chose
I don't read DC so I can't say much about the characters personality, but The Rock doesn't seem to me like he would be a great choice for Lobo. I think he could make a badass black Adam though.
I hope The Rock is Black Adam. Outside of Henry Cavill, no one casted as a hero or villain in Batman vs. Superman seems visually inspired by the role. The Rock would change that as Black Adam.
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