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John Stewart is the best choice and will/could rejuvenate the GL franchise on film.
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I also agree that John Stewart would help give a GL movie that more serious tone. Reynolds "charm" and "funny man" routine really didn't help that movie, and just aided in it being more cheesy and less of a serious movie.

Plus yes I-Drop is right that Stewart was more widely recognized thanks to the JL and JLU series.
Ditto. I've been saying it since b4 the movie came out in the GL movie thread

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I don't agree about the GL stuff at all, but fair enough.
That's understandable. You're a fan of the comics & also a fan of Hal. Take that out of the equation & look at it as a movie exec who wants to get that GA money(the money that matters the absolute most. Comic fanbase simply isn't big enough to sustain a franchise). John's got the most pros & the fewest cons out of all the GLs.


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Ditto. I've been saying it since b4 the movie came out in the GL movie thread

That's understandable. You're a fan of the comics & also a fan of Hal. Take that out of the equation & look at it as a movie exec who wants to get that GA money(the money that matters the absolute most. Comic fanbase simply isn't big enough to sustain a franchise). John's got the most pros & the fewest cons out of all the GLs.


Huh? I'm a fan of most of the mediums DC does stuff in, not just comics. John even used to be my favourite GL.

I don't agree, tbh. Is he more recognised due to animated shows? Sure.

That in itself isn't enough, though.

Look at someone like say, Aquaman. If they were going to adapt him for a movie and stuck to cartoons for their inspiration, he'd either be a corny, useless outside of water guy with fishy friends. Or, he'd be a long-haired, bearded badass with a hook hand.

Yet DC wouldn't make either. They'd go with the current, most badass version of the character because that's the one they want to portray on screen.

With GL, they could go with Hal, John, Guy or Kyle. They all have their pluses and minuses. John has just as many as the others, imo.

Would I hate seeing John as GL? No. Of course not. I'd just prefer Hal.


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Understood.

What DC wants to push isn't always best. The GL movie proves that. After Hal's film flopping so hard, WB needs to call an audible on this one.

I really don't see John having any cons for GA consumption that aren't intrinsic to all the Earth GLs.

John's pros:
Most positive exposure to the GA.
More suitable look for live action. No silly green domino mask.
Provides most distance from Hal's film.
Adds diversity and solves Cyborg "problem".

John's cons:??

Hal's pros:??
Hal's cons:
Extremely negative exposure. Hal's film was a critical& financial failure.
Look isn't ideal for live action.
Unlikely that any big names will want a role that even Reynolds doesn't want anymore.

Guy's pros:
Look is more suitable for live action.
Provides some distance from Hal's film.

Guy's cons:
Not much GA exposure.

Kyle's pros:??
Kyle's cons:
Look can easily be confused with Hal.
Look isn't ideal for live action.
Minimal exposure to GA


If anybody sees it differently, please elaborate


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John has as many cons as the others, if not more.

First, if they want to do him justice at all, he's going to be the most expensive lantern to use due to how his constructs work.

Second, his origin story. It's awful, so needs massive re-working.

Third, there's the "Cyborg problem" as you called it. It can be as much a negative as a positive, imo, especially seeing as, with Hal having had exposure before (hell, people still remember Super Friends) John could easily just be seen as a "black Hal Jordan", which would suck. I know the Justice League is pretty white. I know that they need to add some diversity. But if they're going to involve John, at least put some merit to it.

Or are we supposed to believe that they're solely putting him in because he was the GL in the show? Not for a second, personally.

A mask? Really? You really hate the mask that much?

Why is the "look" not ideal for live action? It's no less silly than any other Lantern's, imo.

Big names would take it in a heartbeat, if the offer was right.

I honestly think John's "exposure" is being drastically overstated, tbh.


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They can scale back on constructs like in JLU. Have him build only when a blast to the face isn't enough. Focus on a Marine's zest for efficiency. They'll save money by avoiding the silly CGI mask &costume too.


Writers write. They're gonna retool things regardless. These movies always change things w/the intent of making things smoother for the GA.

Hal's flop and complaints from people that they "turned GL white" show that his previous exposure didn't amount to much. John being seen as a black Hal is highly unlikely, especially if they get him right.

We should probably believe they're putting him in because the one they bet on before was an abject failure that lost them a fortune and they want to try something that might make some money this time around. They were gonna use John in JL:Mortal before all of this mess happened.


The concept is a hard enough sell to begin with. You don't want to add silly stuff on top of it. I can't think of any crossover icons who wear that as their only means of disguising their face. We don't have any successful movie franchises that feature it. GLs are space cops. Cops don't wear domino masks. Not even the space ones smile

It's silly looking in live action. The GLs who don't wear them don't look as silly as the ones who do.


You'd have to pay them a flat out ridiculous amount of money. Money that might be better spent on other things.

It's positive &popular &ongoing. Can't say that for the one they chose


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They can scale back on constructs like in JLU. Have him build only when a blast to the face isn't enough. Focus on a Marine's zest for efficiency. They'll save money by avoiding the silly CGI mask &costume too.


Writers write. They're gonna retool things regardless. These movies always change things w/the intent of making things smoother for the GA.

Hal's flop and complaints from people that they "turned GL white" show that his previous exposure didn't amount to much. John being seen as a black Hal is highly unlikely, especially if they get him right.

We should probably believe they're putting him in because the one they bet on before was an abject failure that lost them a fortune and they want to try something that might make some money this time around. They were gonna use John in JL:Mortal before all of this mess happened.


The concept is a hard enough sell to begin with. You don't want to add silly stuff on top of it. I can't think of any crossover icons who wear that as their only means of disguising their face. We don't have any successful movie franchises that feature it. GLs are space cops. Cops don't wear domino masks. Not even the space ones smile

It's silly looking in live action. The GLs who don't wear them don't look as silly as the ones who do.


You'd have to pay them a flat out ridiculous amount of money. Money that might be better spent on other things.

It's positive &popular &ongoing. Can't say that for the one they chose


I see where you're coming from in parts, I just honestly disagree with most/all of it.

Either way,


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Johnson didn’t limit the discussion to Hercules, as he also tackled his attachment to a couple of storied DC Comics characters. When asked about his long-rumored role as Green Lantern John Stewart, he responded, “So, you know, there’s been mutual interest with myself and DC for many years to find the right character. I, like everyone here in the room, love superheroes. So there’s been mutual interest with us for years, and we’ve been having ongoing discussions, myself and DC, for years about the right character, what the right character would be. That’s another thing, too: It had to be right.”

When pressed for which role he was in talks to play, Johnson cryptically responded with three qualities of the character.

“The first quality we were looking for was that he had to be extremely complex and have a lot going on,” he said. “What that does for me as an actor and the studio is it gives us space that we can explore; his complexities.

“The other quality was that he had to – the character we were looking for had to be well-known but never brought to life. Then what that does again as an actor, it gives me a little bit of space, and we talked about personality. It just gives me a chance to put an imprint into his personality, with the set of tools that I could bring to the table and put a very unique twist on his personality, but still pay homage to who he is.”

“The third thing – and most important – is he had to be a badass mother****er, OK, and on a Superman level of power, where [he] could throw down. In those three qualities, I’m happy we’ve found that character.”


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And on Twitter he confirmed as well.

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Myself & DC have agreed on a character.. extremely complex, well known (but never played) and a pure BAD ASS MFwink #RockTalk


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I don't read DC so I can't say much about the characters personality, but The Rock doesn't seem to me like he would be a great choice for Lobo. I think he could make a badass black Adam though.

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Black Adam and Lobo have always gotten my vote when it comes to The Rock playing a comic book character


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Cool to see that he's got good taste in GLs. Sucks that the "stamp" was so godawful &corny. Still hoping they get Idris or Chiwetel (sp)

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I see where you're coming from in parts, I just honestly disagree with most/all of it.

Either way,
Fair enough. Time has a way of proving me right on this type of thing


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Cool to see that he's got good taste in GLs. Sucks that the "stamp" was so godawful &corny. Still hoping they get Idris or Chiwetel (sp)

Fair enough. Time has a way of proving me right on this type of thing


lol, surrrre.


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Both black adam and lobo arent well known. Plus lobo isnt conplex.


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I hope The Rock is Black Adam. Outside of Henry Cavill, no one casted as a hero or villain in Batman vs. Superman seems visually inspired by the role. The Rock would change that as Black Adam.

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I hope The Rock is Black Adam. Outside of Henry Cavill, no one casted as a hero or villain in Batman vs. Superman seems visually inspired by the role. The Rock would change that as Black Adam.



and put the BADASS back in badass


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Rock will be John, Idk why people are having a hard time with this.

Why else would he tweet out about GL>Supes(paraphrased).


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Rock will be John, Idk why people are having a hard time with this.

Why else would he tweet out about GL>Supes(paraphrased).


Rock said it won't be GL and John isn't well known.

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Rock said it won't be GL and John isn't well known.


He is well known for those people who watched the Justice League Animated series

but it seems your thinking of the GA.

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The concept is a hard enough sell to begin with. You don't want to add silly stuff on top of it. I can't think of any crossover icons who wear that as their only means of disguising their face. We don't have any successful movie franchises that feature it. GLs are space cops. Cops don't wear domino masks. Not even the space ones smile

It's silly looking in live action. The GLs who don't wear them don't look as silly as the ones who do.


So Hal Jordan gets scrutinized by you but Kyle gets a pass?

he too wears a mask of sorts.

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He is well known for those people who watched the Justice League Animated series

but it seems your thinking of the GA.



So Hal Jordan gets scrutinized by you but Kyle gets a pass?

he too wears a mask of sorts.


I'm thinking Rock meant with the GA. He already stated GL won't be it. It's a character who hasn't appeared yet.

I hope I'm wrong. I'd like him to be John Stewart.

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