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Because you've shown a lack of objectivity when it comes to Wonder Woman.

The fact that this thread is still open means I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. How long it stays open, is up to you.

What? I said she might be as strong as Kara if we go by Simone's portrayal but then PG looked stronger than her under Mark Waid. How's that being having lack of objectivity regarding to wonder woman?


FWIW in a normal fight I would give diana 6-7/10 on Kara, I think Kara is a bit stronger and more durable than her though. She would win here 6/10 IMO.


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It was pretty difficult to find a consistent power level for SG and PG pre-Flashpoint.
Despite presenting the idea that SG only seemed uber relative to Superman because he held back, SG also seemed to drop in power level relative to other heroes post-original push.
Diana could not match Supergirl during her original push--Diana couldn't manhandle the league like SG did when she was Dark Supergirl. But on the whole WW was more often presented as being able to take SG in a fight.

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It was pretty difficult to find a consistent power level for SG and PG pre-Flashpoint.
Despite presenting the idea that SG only seemed uber relative to Superman because he held back, SG also seemed to drop in power level relative to other heroes post-original push.
Diana could not match Supergirl during her original push--Diana couldn't manhandle the league like SG did when she was Dark Supergirl. But on the whole WW was more often presented as being able to take SG in a fight.

Not that true. Even in the end of DCU, she was strong enough to beat Ultraman.

http://i.imgur.com/aRy4FC3.jpg

And beat Titans Tomorrow Superman who earlier caught a full punch from Kara like nothing and wtfpwned full powered Freddy Captain Marvel.

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She also overpowered Brimstone casually when future wonder girl and current wonder girl were having trouble.

http://imgur.com/dDHSNlA
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The same future wonder girl knocked wonder woman out albeit by an ambush.

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Even in Final Crisis, wonder woman needed her skills to beat Black Mary.

http://i.imgur.com/7EglefN.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/2on6Vb8.jpg

Stopping a punch by both hands? Lame.


Supergirl straight up overpowered her.


http://i.imgur.com/YnU3sEi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bDSutRx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6l6YgQv.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/xkPi1oP.jpg

So I don't see how she was supposed to be below wonder woman level when she has actual wins over top tiers in h2h. Ultraman has oneshotted Wonder Woman last they met BTW.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/167...aowned.jpg.html


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Yeah, no lack of objectivity here.

You should just probably avoid threads with Wonder Woman in them from now on, I'm thinking.


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Yeah, no lack of objectivity here.

You should just probably avoid threads with Wonder Woman in them from now on, I'm thinking.

What did I say that was wrong about wonder woman? I am just arguing that Kara was right there with wonder woman in terms of strength till the end albeit slightly stronger. Its not that she was in a different tier or something. I'm genuinely curious about this "lack of objectivity" now.


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TBF there are some portrayals which point out that Wonder Woman IS more powerful/dangerous/effective than supergirl.

Zatanna outright said that Diana was the most powerful woman on the planet.

http://i.imgur.com/0zDax5R.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bnK84mA.jpg

Same with Batman saying that she was the most dangerous among a group consisting of several GLs, Supergirl, Firestorm etc.

http://i.imgur.com/eVKFrcU.jpg

But power=/=strength.


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What did I say that was wrong about wonder woman? I am just arguing that Kara was right there with wonder woman in terms of strength till the end albeit slightly stronger. Its not that she was in a different tier or something. I'm genuinely curious about this "lack of objectivity" now.


So I'm just supposed to forget about every other thread where you posted about Diana? Really?

And what about Ultraman? Was it not so long ago that you were arguing with someone about how the Ultraman that Kara beat up wasn't as impressive as the higher up Ultramans?


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On average, I would say Kara was stronger, yes. Even for strength, some portrayals may imply an equality - or even superiority- for Wonder woman. But I'd say on the whole SG was stronger. That being said, formidability is more complex.

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So I'm just supposed to forget about every other thread where you posted about Diana? Really?

And what about Ultraman? Was it not so long ago that you were arguing with someone about how the Ultraman that Kara beat up wasn't as impressive as the higher up Ultramans?

Aw c'mon pr, its ownage thread and I just stumbled upon a very good comic book archive.

The first Ultraman in Supergirl series was a new character from Earth-3 but this Ultraman which Kara beat in Robinson's JLA was from crime syndicate aka antimatter universe. Don't worry though, Robinson wrote superman treating Supergirl as a spoiled child in strength.


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Whenever WW directly goes against Supergirl or Power Girl, she comes out looking pretty good.

Heck, Power Girl punched her to *Canada* and she just shrugged it.


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Same with Batman saying that she was the most dangerous among a group consisting of several GLs, Supergirl, Firestorm etc.

http://i.imgur.com/eVKFrcU.jpg


She was the most "dangerous" because Batman couldn't focus with his cock hard, that's why.


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She was the most "dangerous" because Batman couldn't focus with his cock hard, that's why.


Then he should have asked Robin to leave the room.

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There can be skill in a slugfest. how you take or roll with a punch is a skill in itself, and one WW has a vast advantage over Supergirl in.

WW stomps.


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Aw c'mon pr, its ownage thread and I just stumbled upon a very good comic book archive.

The first Ultraman in Supergirl series was a new character from Earth-3 but this Ultraman which Kara beat in Robinson's JLA was from crime syndicate aka antimatter universe. Don't worry though, Robinson wrote superman treating Supergirl as a spoiled child in strength.


I know; I did read the comic, as shitty as it was.

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Then he should have asked Robin to leave the room.


laughing out loud I usually hate Batman pedo jokes, but dammit, that was funny.


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Whenever WW directly goes against Supergirl or Power Girl, she comes out looking pretty good.

Heck, Power Girl punched her to *Canada* and she just shrugged it.



In the very same story she conceded that PG is at least as strong as her. In Waid's B&B PG looked solidly above her in strength with knocking her out and then catching her punch.

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Power Girl owns wonder woman

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After that easily catches her punch after Diana blindsided her

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Although in the first fight Diana was somewhat poisoned, so its not totally fair. But catching her full punch is totally legit.


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I know; I did read the comic, as shitty as it was.



laughing out loud I usually hate Batman pedo jokes, but dammit, that was funny.

So, what did you think? She looked solidly above wonder woman's strength class there.


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So, what did you think? She looked solidly above wonder woman's strength class there.


I think almost everything Robinson writes in DC is a gigantic, triceratops level pile of shit.

How is brave and bold a valid example, btw?


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So, what did you think? She looked solidly above wonder woman's strength class there.


Looked pretty close. Blocking a shot doesn't indicate superior strength, and as you say, the first one was poisoned.



And considering PG > Supergirl, still goes to Diana in the Supergirl matchup.


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I think almost everything Robinson writes in DC is a gigantic, triceratops level pile of shit.

How is brave and bold a valid example, btw?

Except Starman, Shade and JSA: Golden Age I agree.

Why it isn't? Its canon and all?
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Looked pretty close. Blocking a shot doesn't indicate superior strength, and as you say, the first one was poisoned.



And considering PG > Supergirl, still goes to Diana in the Supergirl matchup.

Blocking=/=Catching a punch outright casually.

laughing out loud

Who said PG>SG? Supergirl has way better feats than PG.


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