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jaden101
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Originally posted by Omega Vision
For an 8 episode season 3 slow episodes is terrible.

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The first 4 episodes of the first season of The Wire were extremely slow as well.

Where as the first 3 episodes of Better Call Saul were brilliant and it nose-dived into mediocrity after that.

The Walking Dead you're lucky if you get 4 good episodes in a 16 episode season.


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The first 4 episodes of the first season of The Wire were extremely slow as well.

Where as the first 3 episodes of Better Call Saul were brilliant and it nose-dived into mediocrity after that.

The Walking Dead you're lucky if you get 4 good episodes in a 16 episode season.

Difference is that all those shows will continue building and building their characters after the first season. Because True Detective is anthologized, those eight episodes are a single unit, and so there's no chance of it leaving its slow start behind with great future arcs.

Again though, I hope to hell the season gets better. I want to love this season at least half as much as I did Season 1.


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Difference is that all those shows will continue building and building their characters after the first season. Because True Detective is anthologized, those eight episodes are a single unit, and so there's no chance of it leaving its slow start behind with great future arcs.

Again though, I hope to hell the season gets better. I want to love this season at least half as much as I did Season 1.


The Wire had elements of an anthology structure as well. Each season focused on a different group. Season 2 and 4 especially with the dock workers and young uns. They managed to build strong 1 season characters easily enough. Wayward Pines is managing it. Band of Brothers is the pinnacle of a single season run. Rome done wonders with 2 seasons. The office, extras and Derek each had 2 short seasons. Firefly had 1 season. The Shadow Line had 1 season of 7 episodes and was astounding. Buried had 1 season and was also utterly brilliant. Utopia had 2 short seasons and again was top drawer. Black Mirror has 3 episode seasons with a different story in each episode and is some of the best TV you will ever watch.


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Omega Vision
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The Wire had elements of an anthology structure as well. Each season focused on a different group. Season 2 and 4 especially with the dock workers and young uns. They managed to build strong 1 season characters easily enough. Wayward Pines is managing it. Band of Brothers is the pinnacle of a single season run. Rome done wonders with 2 seasons. The office, extras and Derek each had 2 short seasons. Firefly had 1 season. The Shadow Line had 1 season of 7 episodes and was astounding. Buried had 1 season and was also utterly brilliant. Utopia had 2 short seasons and again was top drawer. Black Mirror has 3 episode seasons with a different story in each episode and is some of the best TV you will ever watch.

True, but there was still McNulty and Co.

It would be interesting if a minor character from Season 1 shows up in a cameo somewhere in Season 2. Maybe one of Marty's daughters or one of the two black detectives.


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I agree with OV, 3 or 4 slow Eps out of 8 Eps is not a good start. A show with a limited amount of Eps per a season better start with a bang, a hook, a catch in the first Ep or two. The Wire had a lot more Eps to start off slowly and they had more time to tell stories, where as True Detective does not. It's a very limited amount of time to tell stories, and they better be good.


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I agree with OV, 3 or 4 slow Eps out of 8 Eps is not a good start. A show with a limited amount of Eps per a season better start with a bang, a hook, a catch in the first Ep or two. The Wire had a lot more Eps to start off slowly and they had more time to tell stories, where as True Detective does not. It's a very limited amount of time to tell stories, and they better be good.
I'm about halfway through the first season, and it had a pretty slow start too. Since you all came back for season 2, I'm assuming it has a good payoff


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I won't spoil anything for you Arach.


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I won't spoil anything for you Arach.
I appreciate it man, but you're free to post your thoughts. I'm marathoning it, and I've only got two episodes left. I wont be back in this thread until I finish the first season


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I'm about halfway through the first season, and it had a pretty slow start too. Since you all came back for season 2, I'm assuming it has a good payoff


Season 2 doesn't have anything to do with season 1


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I'm about halfway through the first season, and it had a pretty slow start too. Since you all came back for season 2, I'm assuming it has a good payoff

It's true that the first two episodes are really slow, but when you watch them again they're loaded with little hints and clues that you don't notice at first. I hope it will be the same with this season when all is said and done.

For me, True Detective Season 1 came alive in the last scene of episode 2. That gave me chills. If we go by the novel analogy, that's 100 pages into a 400 page novel. Ideally you should be hooked from page 1 (or more likely, 20 or so pages in), but that's not terrible.


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well, that was... unexpected!


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I totally called it right before it happened. So far this is really, really good.


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well, that was... unexpected!

Yeah, unless that ending is some kind of big fakeout, the mystery of the show will actually be [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Ray's murder.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I knew he was going to die, but not so soon...that's shocking


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I totally called it right before it happened. So far this is really, really good.
actually, i thought he was getting framed for the murder of his ex-wife and/or her new husband.


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actually, i thought he was getting framed for the murder of his ex-wife and/or her new husband.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: When he was in the house I just figured he's going to die and quickly thought from the previews I think I've seen all of his scenes already so it would turn into a three person show now instead of a four person. I liked him the best thus far so I'm a little annoyed. He had me at the beat down of the bully's dad.


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see, that's why i never watch those "next time on" previews. They end up telling me things I'd rather not know until I'm watching the episode in it's entirety.


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see, that's why i never watch those "next time on" previews. They end up telling me things I'd rather not know until I'm watching the episode in it's entirety.
I just meant the previews of the show not the next episode. Plus I just had a feeling in the scene that it was going to happen.


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ah okay.


you were ahead of me there, 'cause i didn't think for a second that they'd off a main character in the second episode. When the first shot happened, i thought, damn, he got shot in the leg or something... that's gonna leave mark, but he'll just kill this guy and continue the investigation with the other others. but then came the double tap.


lol.


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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: When he was in the house I just figured he's going to die and quickly thought from the previews I think I've seen all of his scenes already so it would turn into a three person show now instead of a four person. I liked him the best thus far so I'm a little annoyed. He had me at the beat down of the bully's dad.


[SPOILER - highlight to read]: He's not dead. It was birdshot cartridges


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Pretty good ep last night, better than the first one. Those damn aerial shots bug the shit outta me now though.


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