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Batman wins.

*gas bomb, gas bomb, gas bomb* works for like 99% of Spidey's rogues.

For the rest, battarang. (Or Mr. Freeze gun.)


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Spider-man should do better than Batman. The power levels of Spider-man's rogues are more or less scaled UP from his own. And they've been known to attack more than one at a time. The sheer volume of superpowered villains in Spidey's world would be absolutely insane for Batman to handle.


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Who have a glaring weakness.

Much like when Batman had to face the God the Devil prays to, and shot him.

Then had to defeat a conceptual trap designed specifically for him, from prehistory to the end of all time.

At least Batman had help though, from an entire multiverse of Bat analogues, some of whom were actual gods.

Oh wait.....


not being immune to ingested radiation is a glaring weakness now?

Also, of all the spidey fans here, how am I the only one that knows about the time he had to face all the hardships he had faced in his career to that point?

Also to the matter of will power, Spidey did reconstruct his own mind from basically nothing


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Batman wins this hands down. For too many reasons tol list mostly b.c for the most part they're 1 trick ponies who rely just on powers and most need to breath which makes them vulnerable to gas. Hid only challenge would be GG who's a bastard stepchild of Joker mixed with LL.

As for SPM while his abilities are superior to most if not all of BM villains, BM villains for the most part are very cerebral who will give SPM fits due to their methodology and tactics used.

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Batman would clean Spider-Mans Villain cast rather quickly. However, Parker has never met psychos like Joker. I could see Parker getting insane and broken.


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^ Yeah right. How is batman going to handle somebody smart like Ock who is physically dangerous as well. I mean Batman isn't completely out of his depth but a lot of his gallery are super smart but can't fight in person. Ock is more dangerous than Bane in a physical confrontation.


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^ Yeah right. How is batman going to handle somebody smart like Ock who is physically dangerous as well. I mean Batman isn't completely out of his depth but a lot of his gallery are super smart but can't fight in person. Ock is more dangerous than Bane in a physical confrontation.
DO you even read Batman comics ? Do you think Rah al Gul, Talia, Joker, Mr Freeze, Poison Ivy or Bane are idiots or 1 trick pony like most of SPM villains? Ock can be affected by gas, sonics or a straight punch to the jaw, plus the thread says he has Wayne Manor with the Batcave which means all his Batcars, Batplanes, ect.

Bane is more than a hyper steroid freak, he's extremely good at using psychology, tactics, strategy and HTH also a genius although it not always shown. Rah al Gul is a master at HTH and has his own cadre of modified/ superhuman under his control. Killer Crock is also has enhance strength and durability, Poison Ivy can control plants, Firefly can generate and control fire, Mr Freeze has Ice generating abilities. Blockbuster had at least CL 85 Str lvl before he was killed yet Batman defeated him.

This idea that Batman only fight normal humans is a fallacy pure and simple. Lets not forget the people Batman fight in the JL most if not all are superhuman in 1 lvl or another. Nevertheless most of his rogues are very intelligent human but that far from his only opponents.

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DO you even read Batman comics ? Do you think Rah al Gul, Talia, Joker, Mr Freeze, Poison Ivy or Bane are idiots or 1 trick pony like most of SPM villains? Ock can be affected by gas, sonics or a straight punch to the jaw, plus the thread says he has Wayne Manor with the Batcave which means all his Batcars, Batplanes, ect.

Bane is more than a hyper steroid freak, he's extremely good at using psychology, tactics, strategy and HTH also a genius although it not always shown. Rah al Gul is a master at HTH and has his own cadre of modified/ superhuman under his control. Killer Crock is also has enhance strength and durability, Poison Ivy can control plants, Firefly can generate and control fire, Mr Freeze has Ice generating abilities. Blockbuster had at least CL 85 Str lvl before he was killed yet Batman defeated him.

This idea that Batman only fight normal humans is a fallacy pure and simple. Lets not forget the people Batman fight in the JL most if not all are superhuman in 1 lvl or another. Nevertheless most of his rogues are very intelligent human but that far from his only opponents.


I've read tons of Batman comics which is why I said he isn't completely out of his depth. Bane gives Batman a lot of trouble because he is very strong and smart and arguably Ock is smerter and tougher. I think he'll survive but it's not going to be easy he's going to have to up his game.

EDIT: I guess i exaggerated a bit because you do have DC fanboy syndrome eg Red Skull vs Joker thread.


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I've read tons of Batman comics which is why I said he isn't completely out of his depth. Bane gives Batman a lot of trouble because he is very strong and smart and arguably Ock is smerter and tougher. I think he'll survive but it's not going to be easy he's going to have to up his game.

EDIT: I guess i exaggerated a bit because you do have DC fanboy syndrome eg Red Skull vs Joker thread.
How is Ock smarter? Doc Ock might be better at sciences, but Bane is a much better strategist & tactician.

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How is Ock smarter? Doc Ock might be better at sciences, but Bane is a much better strategist & tactician.


You sure he's a better strategist? At any rate he's not a bad strategist and is better at sciences and very dangerous in a physical confrontation. Overall he's still more dangerous than Bane. Then you got Norman Osborn......


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Prometheus pretty much destroys both Osborn and Dock ock.

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^ Yeah right. How is batman going to handle somebody smart like Ock who is physically dangerous as well. I mean Batman isn't completely out of his depth but a lot of his gallery are super smart but can't fight in person. Ock is more dangerous than Bane in a physical confrontation.


Batman has access to better weapons and is smarter (with prep) than any Spidey villain.

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Prometheus pretty much destroys both Osborn and Dock ock.


I don't think so. Has he done anything like Norman did in Dark Reign?


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Batman has access to better weapons and is smarter (with prep) than any Spidey villain.


Not sure if he's smarter than Osborn or Ock. Superior Spiderman Ock is really impressive.


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Parker uses Parker Particles and becomes translevel, then wipes out every single criminal in Gotham.


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I don't think so. Has he done anything like Norman did in Dark Reign?




Not sure if he's smarter than Osborn or Ock. Superior Spiderman Ock is really impressive.


He basically single handedely took down the Justice League and has plans (in his suit) to take down pretty much EVERY meta on the planet. He's much more tech savy than any Spider-villain ever. He's basically beaten by PIS every time. With his suit and access to the Ghost Key, I'd give Prometheus an advantage against Osborn.

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He basically single handedely took down the Justice League and has plans (in his suit) to take down pretty much EVERY meta on the planet. He's much more tech savy than any Spider-villain ever. He's basically beaten by PIS every time. With his suit and access to the Ghost Key, I'd give Prometheus an advantage against Osborn.


So Prometheus has been so dangerous that pretty much every super hero including major teams had to join up to beat him and he was leading a cabal of major supervillains?

EDIT: By the way when I say every super hero obvioulsy not every one. But like I said all the major teams and ALOT of other super heros in between so you could say every one to an extent it was.


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So Prometheus has been so dangerous that pretty much every super hero including major teams had to join up to beat him and he was leading a cabal of major supervillains?

EDIT: By the way when I say every super hero obvioulsy not every one. But like I said all the major teams and ALOT of other super heros in between so you could say every one to an extent it was.


Pretty much. He also has access to a cosmic treadmill, can block telepathic attacks, attacks who can shrink sub atomic, attacks from Dr. Light, can react to 0.0003 of a second, etc.. his suit can do it all.

These frats don't count his last appearances, where he easily fooled Midnighter, infiltrated the JLA headquarters, etc...

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