What is that supposed to mean ? Thor was brainwashed back then, and even if he wasn't, I still don't see the big deal.
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Debatable, debatable, not true, partially true, completely untrue, somewhat true(though with how the Hulk's superspeed has been portrayed in recent times, I wouldn't put it past Shulkie to be fast as well), not true and so on...
Using cover pages as "proof" is sure a new debating tactic I've seen in recent times. Tell me, is it a patented KMC trick, or just something you made up along the way?
I agree that the rest is debatable but... not half as smart as Spider-man part.. when did SH get a genius level intellect?
I'd also like to point out that the webbing did slow her down and SM has a bag of feats of hurting people of her strength class and durability even if it wasn't shown to be the case in that particular fight that is decades old anyway.
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In the very scans I posted, she ripped through it twice. Shulkie may not have Spidey's level of technical expertise, but let's not think that smarts are limited to only superscience intellect. Or are you forgetting who suggested that Spidey prosecute Jameson for libel in court? Spider-Man has a bag of feats of hurting people in her weight-class? Well, so does She-Hulk, and they're far more numerous since this is her weight class we're talking about. That fight is one of the few instances of these characters going head to head in canon. I don't see how it being "decades old" somehow invalidates the feat.
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I'd be surprised if she didn't have feats of hurting chars of her weight class but that's not the point, the argument was whether he can hurt her and based on his feats he can. Time matters because Spider-man has gotten stronger and received lots of MA training. And even by that time's standards that can be argued to be a not-a-very-good showing for Spider-man, more of an exception than the rule.
I'm not arguing the webbing can immobilize her completely and permanently but can definitely slow her down. Depends on the amount really and the fight doesn't contradict it. It's gotten stronger as well btw.
I'm not talking about her lawyer degree, but overall smarts. For example Wolverine is brilliant in his own field when it comes to tracking skills etc but that's not enough to say that he's for example 1/5th as smart as Reed Richards. Someone half as smart as Spider-man in RL would still be the smartest person on the planet.
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She-Hulk got an official strength boost as well. Along with considerable h2h training(iirc, Cap himself has trained her).
Lol, so him being on the receiving end of a fight against an opponent vastly more durable, stronger and with a better hf than him is a bad showing for him? What delusional, pixie dust land do you live in?
My argument was largely pointed at Kurdy's ridiculous idea that it's debatable whether she could even break out of it, when we've seen a weaker incarnation of Shulkie do it.
Lol, and again I ask how exactly is his superior technical knowledge proof of him being smarter? Have you not watched Breaking Bad? She-Hulk convinced the Living F*cking Tribunal himself to spare the 616-universe when the latter was weighing its worthiness against the Ultimateverse. Using nothing but her argumentative skills. She isn't the sexualized moron from the Byrne era anymore. She's evolved during the last couple decades.
It invalidates it because more recent showings show the opposite, that Spidey can indeed harm characters in her league (without hurting himself). Look how he has hit has hit Thor and knocked Namor around. Recent showings >>> old showings if both are have similar number of occurrences.
Even using that scene. Spidey could easily tire She-Hulk out with the webbing. He can get free hits on her while she is stuck in the webbing.
As a great man once said, "Boards don't hit back."
Of course she can serious hurt Spidey. No one is arguing against that.
I'm saying she would have a nearly impossible time hitting him, especially with the speed difference, webbing, agility difference, and Spidey's pre cog SS. He can possibly wear her out to pull off a win.
There are a lot of guys spidey fights who could win via thunderclap but really, how often do these guys utilize it? It would be very hard to thunderclap when you're covered in webbing.
P.s. The last guy who incapacitated Spidey with a thunder clap was an amped Colossus(a lot stronger than she hulk with a deafening metallic ring to boot) so I'm not so sure its an auto win for her anyway.
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