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How GREAT Lord of the Rings is compared to Harry Potter and how it COPIED LOTR.
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Smile How GREAT Lord of the Rings is compared to Harry Potter and how it COPIED LOTR.

Hello! I am kinda new to these forums, though I am a mOvie FREAK and I don't know why it took me so long to find this place...anywho I was kinda thinking about how BAD Harry Potter was and how GREAT Lord of the Rings was. big grin Anyway, Harry Potter COPIED Lord of the Rings so BAD. I mean giant spider in Harry Potter? *coughs* Shelob. Ok. here is my list of things J.K.Rowling has COPIED from Tolkien.

1. Obivously the giant spider in Harry Potter vaugely resembles...who am i kidding, almost EXACTLY resemble Shelob in Lord of the Rings.mad

2. Dementors. Hooded and cloaked figures in black who bring fear into wherever they pass. You cannot see their face. I am sorry, but this is almost DIRECTLY out of Tolkien.mad

3.A Dark Lord. Volemort is actually referred to the Dark Lord at some point....i am sure he is. Anywho, if I'm wrong, it is something very similar to the name "The Dark Lord". Anyway, Voldmort is defeated and is quiet for years.....but his spirit still lives on in a very weak form, and he is getting stronger and gathering more supporters. I am sorry. But HELLO! J.K.Rowling is not the amazing individual author everyone thinks her to be. .mad

I have a ton more but i can't be bothered to post them. YOU do it. I wanna see how many I can find.

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There's Wizards in Both.


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Ushgarak
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Oh, yeah, great. Harry Potter is steeped in fantasy mythology, like LOTR. How it MUST be a rip off then... gee...


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yeah! what rediculous nonsense it all is!


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harry potter sux


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dude i agree, i think harry potter is crap and that they did rip off LOTR. first off it seems suspicious that right as LOTR movies started to come out a harry potter movie is rushed and put out. plus they showed up in theaters a month before LOTR. i feel it was an etempt to still LOTR thunder, which i think fellowship would have done better if not for Potter. second playing the devils advocate here, tolkien is the major influence in fantasy so it would be hard for them not to have similarities, but there is an awful lot of them. Just my opinion though as i am sure there are many people who love potter (look at the box office). i just look at it as a child friendly fantasy, where as LOTR has a much more earthy realism to it, that might scare younger children.


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I still havent let myself see it and i dont plan to.the thing i hate most about it is the fact that silly wee kids think it is soooooooooo much better than lotr.


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Tolkien freely admitted that his own work was derivative. Everything takes influence from other things. Potter has done it very well and in a STAGGERINGLY popular fashion, too. It deserves the kudos it gets and there is no reason for it to be in competition with LOTR at all.


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The Chamber of Secrets was better than the first. They are both great books/films. Honestly, I really don't care.

1. Who cares if there's a giant spider in both books.

2. There are lots of things with hooded, dark monsters in it. Hell, I used something like that for a story.

3. You might as well say that Star Wars copied Tolkien then. Vader was a Dark Lord, we'd better sue.


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Come to think of it. Star Wars DID copy lotr......EVIL GEORGE LUCAS.

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And Tolkien ripped off a load of Norse mythology; shall we sue his estate whilst we are at it?


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Yes I agree with Ush this could go on forever but comeon, JK rowling could really have tried to cover up her rip of of lotr i mean ~ Wormtongue / Wormtail ~ Same Name you poor excuse for a writer, Jesus hasn't Copyright taught you anything~ suffixes don't count (nor do prefixes for that matter)!?
Oh yes and I suggest any haters of Harry Potter should try to read Barry Trotter and the Shameless Parody by Michael Gerber oh yeah and while you are there read Bored of the rings ~ Now thats copyright infringement!


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Yes! Wormtounge/Wormtail. They are both traitors to the Dark Lord. Now THAT is obvious.
No-on OWNS the Nordic legends.

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Oh, that's all right, just because they were written before copyright existed then it is no longer plagiarism... it's the same thing, regardless of legality. And that point is moot anyway as no-one seems inclined to sue, and for good reason because a case based on what has been said here would be feeble.

LOTR and Potter explore fundamentally different things.


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No, it's WAY different. Tolkien used the Nordic legends for INSPIRATION and he TOTALLY admitted it and said he was fascinated with it and that it really INSPIRED him. No where in J.K.Rowling's movies, books any of her franchise does she say that she took ideas from Tolkien, whereas Tolkien did say he took a lot of his stuff from Nordics legends to create a modern myth.

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If you asked Rowling if she took inspiration from other fantasies then the answer would be a resounding yes. But it is not even close to plagiarism.

I mean, the 'school for Wizards' thing had been done a hundred times before. Wizards, Withces, the spells, the hero prophecy boy... it is ALL classic fantasy cliche but who the hell cares? It is just done well.


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Yeah but she would never say "i stole lots of my ideas from Tolkien" would she?

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no, because that is pointless. it seems to me some of you have read very little fantasy literature; there's work that's far more similar to LOTR; but not that there's really anything wrong with that. just the way it is in fantasy, lots of cliches.


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