quote: (post)

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Or Thor just speedbitzes his ass or throws Mjolnir, pasting his ass, and Thor is considerably physically superior

quote: (post)

Originally posted by StealthRanger
>I don't like it so I'm going to ignore it

You do that, then

Thor is still physically superior to Voldy, who can't survive a hit from THor

quote: (post)

Originally posted by StealthRanger
No I base on actual feats

Show me a speed feat from Voldemort to suggest Thor can't blitz. He can keep up with Iron Man who is at least supersonic

Show me Crucio working on someone on the level of Thor seeing as the best it's affected is humans

quote: (post)

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see Ironman react at nowhere near supersonic speeds in his fight with Thor. You make things up.

quote:

Wrong. Wizards. Crucio again its a durability it has to do with pain. Thor experiences pain therefore he is at Voldemort's mercy.

quote: (post)

Originally posted by StealthRanger
>combat speed fallacy

You're doing it wrong, mate



What's the difference, they're human too you silly ***

Show me him doing to someone as physically powerful as Thor and not "it can do it to humans therefore he can harm Thor" no limits fallacy

Might as well say "bullets can kill humans so therefore they can kill Kryptonians too"

quote: (post)

Originally posted by quanchi112
They weren't fighting at those speeds. You need to back your claim. That is how debating works.

Humans don't have magical powers. That is what we call muggles, sport.

Durability was not an issue in the film. Whether it be spiders or humans the spell kills you but doesn't effect your durability overall.

Bullets rip through your body physically unlike the Ak. Boom. It isn't the same thing at all. Try to understand, simple ranger.

quote: (post)

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Prove they weren't. You claimed that they can't fight supersonic, you have to prove it. That's how debating works sonny boy

Ah **** it, I'll just throw up the entire page on this shit

http://www.outskirtsbattledomewiki....t-speed-fallacy

They're still humans, they have the same physiology, they have the same biological functions and whatnot so, I'm honestly curious to hear how you prove this "different race" bullshit

Nothing in the HP-verse is anywhere as durable as Thor is. And again with the no limit fallacy "they work on HP-verse magical creatures which are shit physically so therefore they can work on a being so massively superior physically to the HP-verse"

I think the point of that flew above your head so far it got lost in the vicinity of Pluto...

Honestly quanchi, are you trolling, or just have some form of mental deficiency? If the latter, have considered selling your body to science? I'm sure some amazing discoveries would be made researching on you.....

quote: (post)

Originally posted by quanchi112
You made the claim. If they weren't fighting at those speeds you concede the claim to me.



Wrong. I see humans from fictional universes fight faster than bullets so acting like humans all react the same speeds is ridiculous. Wizards are also not muggles.




Ak isn't a durability based attack.

You are the one who lacks the comprehension to debate. Irony.

quote: (post)

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Because if you can move that fast, you can react that fast, obviously and long distance feats determine the speed of a character

What "humans" have you seen fight faster than bullets?

No, but they're both humans, duh

Never said it was

Aww, how cute an "I know you are but what am I?" response

quote: (post)

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Why wouldn't they be using that speed if they've demonstrated it? Are you trying to imply they were holding back now?

"Very lightning fast" yes because that doesn't sound like a hyperbolic description of anything, and incase you don't get it here's a little /sarcasm

Prove they're not humans please, since apart from magical blood or some shit, they still function like humans

quote: (post)

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see the attack and not attack anywhere near those speeds. Just because the Flash operates at a very high level that doesn't mean he operates that quickly from now on. You lack any rational thought or understanding.

If you haven't seen any movies where humans dodge bullets you need to watch movies.


They aren't humans due to the fact they possess magical abilities. D humans possess this ability ?

quote: (post)

Originally posted by StealthRanger
No Quan "we can see it on screen so it's only human speed" is not an argument. Long distance feats are what determine feats and things have to been seen on screen, otherwise we wouldn't see them at all

Speedsters always get tagged in comics due to PIS, hell he even gets hit by explosives when his feats logically suggest he should be more than capable of outrunning the blast radius a million times over. No, you'll be surprised I know far more about abilities, powerscaling and shit alot more than you do (tho in today's day and age, who doesn't?)

So you have no proof, I accept your concession

Prove they're not humans since, again, the function in the exact same way and no "herp derp haz magik" is not an argument, never has been and never will be

quote: (post)

Originally posted by Silent Master
The Hulk was sent flying backwards when Thor hit him with Mjolnir, that gave Thor plenty of time to use his other abilities, The Hulk is just lucky that Thor was holding back.

quote: (post)

Originally posted by Stoic
This nonsense of Thor not using his full power set is only half truths. In a real time real world fight, Thor wouldn't have the time to go all exotic, if the Hulk was up in his face. He would need to get a decent amount of distance away from the Hulk in order to unleash due to the Hulk not just standing there while Thor whips up some huge storm. Hope you can see this, because it's not hard to see it in a real world type of situation. It also may not stop the Hulk even if he let loose this huge storm, so you can't pretend that this would be the coup de grace in Thor's favor. It would/could just be an impressive attack, that would/could make the Hulk more excitable. Like I said, just before they were interrupted, Thor was placed in a very bad position, and looked to be about to take a huge beating.

You know what I'm wondering though? If Marvel comics thought that Thor could dominate the Hulk in a fight, why in all of the cartoons that they released, do we see the Hulk knocking Thor the hell out? I just find that spectacularly weird.

quote: (post)

Originally posted by Stoic
Yeah because of his impressive armor right? Wrong, The Hulk would have done to Thor the same thing that he did to his brother Loki.

quote: (post)

Originally posted by FrothByte
Thor was able to use a charged hammer strike when both he and Hulk brought down a leviathan, and that was in the middle of a fight. He also used a charged hammer strike when he fought Malekith, and that was in the middle of a fight. He also used a load of moves against the frost giants, and that was in the middle of the fight.

And that part where he hit Hulk with Mjolnir and dazed him? Ample time to use different powers. Could even have just flown out of range of Hulk and then started to whip out a storm from there.

And to answer your question about cartoons, in the Hulk vs. commentary the scriptwriters specifically said that they were Hulk fans and just wanted to see Hulk smash Thor. In Ultimate Avengers it looks like they used Ultimate Thor version as Hulk was able to pick up Mjjolnir. Thor was dominating that fight up until he got hit with his own hammer. In Planet Hulk, Beta Ray Bill was whooping Hulk's ass until Hulk hit him with a sucker punch... and BRB is considered roughly the equal of Thor.