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Is this Gabon with or without the completed Triforce? That might help here.


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How would an African country having the Triforce help here?


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Ganondorf is technically black... I think.


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Originally posted by Utrigita
Neither did Proteus, that didn't stop Magneto from harming/destroying him. But again I'm not familiar with Ganondorf powers, so I'll get the scans for you guys that actually know about Ganondorf to analyse what would happen.

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Ganondorf doesn't have an energy matrix, that's such a weirdly specific feat I'm not sure what to make of it.


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But is Ganondorfs form made of energy or is it just a astral projection of some sort?


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Neither, though we've seen him take on incorporeal forms, what they are/how they work is never specified. I'm just talking about him in general. It's hard to really say how Magneto's power would interact with magic, I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEV3FZN8lCQ&t=6m20s

He's in the past survived having his head impaled by a planetary+ level anti evil/anti magic sword.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkMY5Cxj3m8&t=7m0s

Twice.

This thing has cut a continent out of the Earth in one swing and stopped a planetary+ level reality warping force in the past.

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Now, that sword can and indeed does put Ganondorf down. I'm not claiming he tanks the sword, I'm using it to illustrate the sort of beating he can take from a source that can damage him. The sword has the power to overcome his immortality and invulnerability. Wounds from the sword can actually hurt him. Wounds from lesser blades, like the Sage's Sword, are laughed off entirely.

Even the light arrows, items which are literally demigods/the guardian spirits of the world that have turned into arrows, do no real damage to him, they just stun him.


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The Sage's Sword left a gaping hole in his chest that never healed. It didn't kill him, but it can hurt him.


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Neither, though we've seen him take on incorporeal forms, what they are/how they work is never specified. I'm just talking about him in general. It's hard to really say how Magneto's power would interact with magic, I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEV3FZN8lCQ&t=6m20s

He's in the past survived having his head impaled by a planetary+ level anti evil/anti magic sword.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkMY5Cxj3m8&t=7m0s

Twice.

This thing has cut a continent out of the Earth in one swing and stopped a planetary+ level reality warping force in the past.

(please log in to view the image)

Now, that sword can and indeed does put Ganondorf down. I'm not claiming he tanks the sword, I'm using it to illustrate the sort of beating he can take from a source that can damage him. The sword has the power to overcome his immortality and invulnerability. Wounds from the sword can actually hurt him. Wounds from lesser blades, like the Sage's Sword, are laughed off entirely.

Even the light arrows, items which are literally demigods/the guardian spirits of the world that have turned into arrows, do no real damage to him, they just stun him.


So in short we can conclude absolutely nada about Ganondorfs energy based form? Well that kinda didn't help at all stick out tongue

Magic in itself isn't a problem for Magneto iirc his shield have tanked a blast from Doom without problems (and a psychic feedback from Galactus) but I don't think Magneto has ever manipulated magic, will have to check.


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So in short we can conclude absolutely nada about Ganondorfs energy based form? Well that kinda didn't help at all stick out tongue

Magic in itself isn't a problem for Magneto iirc his shield have tanked a blast from Doom without problems (and a psychic feedback from Galactus) but I don't think Magneto has ever manipulated magic, will have to check.

Precisely! stick out tongue

All right, lemme know what you find. I'd expect his shield to be able to handle magic, I mean, it's a shield, magic does tend to interact with things. stick out tongue


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Precisely! stick out tongue

All right, lemme know what you find. I'd expect his shield to be able to handle magic, I mean, it's a shield, magic does tend to interact with things. stick out tongue


Gotta love those game characters... stick out tongue

Well magic in the marvel universe can circumvent shields, iirc the magic from Adam Warlock was able to initially penetrate the shield of Vulcan before Vulcan adapted to the magical energy, so it was more to get the possibility of magic affecting Magneto out of the way, since his shield was already able to block magic from Doom wink

Another possibility is that Magneto scrambles Ganondorfs brain like he did to Apocalypse, but I'm not sure it's a viable option.


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You'd be surprised how thoroughly catalogued some of their feats and abilities have been. Boredom is a powerful thing!

Most of my knowledge of Marvel magic comes from things Thor does.

I wouldn't bet on scrambling Ganon's brain, though. He's proven to be able to operate with a sword through it.


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If by "operate" you mean he said 5 words then died, then sure. thumb up


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You'd be surprised how thoroughly catalogued some of their feats and abilities have been. Boredom is a powerful thing!

Most of my knowledge of Marvel magic comes from things Thor does.

I wouldn't bet on scrambling Ganon's brain, though. He's proven to be able to operate with a sword through it.


I have no doubt smile The arguments with Quanchi have ensured that stick out tongue

Well, they resemble each other in some way, mostly they to my understanding is different in the way it's required to cast the spells (asgardian magic unlike say for instance Doctor Stranges magic doesn't involve invoking magical deities.)

Well Apo toke fine to having a Axe through it, but couldn't handle what Magneto did.


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I have no doubt smile The arguments with Quanchi have ensured that stick out tongue

Well, they resemble each other in some way, mostly they to my understanding is different in the way it's required to cast the spells (asgardian magic unlike say for instance Doctor Stranges magic doesn't involve invoking magical deities.)

Well Apo toke fine to having a Axe through it, but couldn't handle what Magneto did.
Comics are weird. Also, nah, the majority of these feats were catalogued ages ago, Quan just served as reason to repost them.

Can I have some more information on this thing with the axe? It wasn't freakin' Jarnbjorn or whatever, was it?

I'm not sure what to make of it, as is. Magneto can mess with people's brains, but Ganondorf can have his bisected and just be mad. The only reason the sword can put him down is because it's also a powerful magic artifact meant to destroy evil.

How does Magneto hold up to polymorphs, by the by?


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Comics are weird. Also, nah, the majority of these feats were catalogued ages ago, Quan just served as reason to repost them.

Can I have some more information on this thing with the axe? It wasn't freakin' Jarnbjorn or whatever, was it?

I'm not sure what to make of it, as is. Magneto can mess with people's brains, but Ganondorf can have his bisected and just be mad. The only reason the sword can put him down is because it's also a powerful magic artifact meant to destroy evil.

How does Magneto hold up to polymorphs, by the by?


Indeed, continuity is not a overly common thing stick out tongue Ahh okay I have only been discussing Ganondorf once and that was against Kil'Jaeden from Warcraft smile

It was Jarnbjorn before it became cursed (iirc), so it was mostly to show that a axe to the head didn't harm Apo but Magnetos electronic scramble of his brain did.

Well, it's more a kind of a telepathic rape (you disrupt the brainwaves, I think) but then again this seems like a fight with far to many unknown factors to make a call.

If it's magic it should run straigth into his shield without any result, atleast that is what I think would happen. I don't think anyone has ever tried to transform Magneto into something a sheep or similar.


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Ganondorf is technically black... I think.


I thought he was...Gerudoan (?) and not Gabonese?


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but then again this seems like a fight with far to many unknown factors to make a call.

I could settle on this, since I lack some knowledge on Magneto and so far that seems to be the case from my corner also.

Perhaps a draw?


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I could settle on this, since I lack some knowledge on Magneto and so far that seems to be the case from my corner also.

Perhaps a draw?


Yeah it seems the likely outcome. Magneto can't put Ganondorf down permanently (given that we don't know what his non physical form is composed of) likewise Ganondorf would be unable to defeat Magneto given the history his shield have. Both sides can battlefield remove their opponents, yet both sides can teleport or make a wormhole to reenter the fight so...

Draw smile


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A draw then. Fair enough.


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