That team would tear Orion to bits. Superman is not Orion, and much like the Hulk is always, and I mean always pulling his punches. Do you think Orion could take on Brutaal? This would more or less be a Superman unwilling to take it easy on his opponents.
YOu of course are referring to Light Ray going berserk right? Listen if Black Bolt, Thor, Silver Surfer, Blue Marvel, Superman, Hal Jordan, Sersi, and so many others went berserk they would have people thinking that they were above their tier as well.
I won't low ball anything, they simply could not take on the mindless Hulk, who happened to be written below WW Hulk's power level in canon. He was beating the mess out of them. At one point he had Wonder Man fearing for his life. He nearly killed Namor when both East Coast Avengers, and West Coast Avengers joined together in order to put a stop to the Hulk's rampage.
WW Hulk is a completely different Hulk, and could ramp up his strength by though alone, which surpassed the strength of any other version of him in the past. That team, or at least both of those teams would have beat the mess out of Orion, and yet they were struggling big time against a dying Hulk.
Like I said before, Orion is more versatile than the Hulk, but there is only so far that versatility gets you, when the strength disparity becomes too great. I've said this in previous posts about this version of the Hulk's strength, but it has to be said again.
On Sakaar the Hulk out-muscled an explosion that was going to destroy the planet. It takes more strength to out-muscle an explosion capable of displacing a planetary body, than the planetary body itself. In other words, the explosion weighed far more than the planet itself. Orion was stuck in a titanium box, and was pinned down by a 200-400 ton block of lead, while WW Hulk was shifting continents.
Yet there will be someone else that will come into this thread, and claim that Orion is too fast for WW Hulk to touch, and ignore that Sentry is faster than Orion, and ignore WW Hulk chin checking him during his attempted blitz attack.
He's done it a few times against a "not holding back like normal" Superman. Once, when he was brainwashed to believe he was Darkseids son, and another time when Supes was manipulated by Dominus, and tore through the entire JLA. Except for Orion, who had an extended fight with him.
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i think this comment preety much tells me everything i need about carver. the guy doesnt understand how fights work he thinks the main and only factor in a fight is strength. for this guy its all a matter of who can lift more. now i understand why all your arguments lack so much, you dont even understand how fights work.
Don't think Orion could handle too many punches from WWH...he would fold. Hulk is more powerful and I don't think versatility would work here. Hulk was swimming around in Sentry energy that was said to have the power of a million exploding suns.
Actually a pretty good fight. Their strength should be near equal, their durability too. Orion is faster and more versatile but I doubt that he would use this. He would get into h2h and once he realizes that WWH is on his level he might decide otherwise. I would still give him the edge, even if we take out the speed and Astro Force to make it more fair, simply because he is the superior h2h fighter.
So with speed and Astro Force, Orion 8/10.
Without 5-6/10.
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I dunno, Carver said he can't take too many punch's.
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