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Based on the fact that when a MGS Rail gun fires the most it does is destroy a tree, or a few crates...

What rail gun IRL has impact like the piss poor MGS Rail guns??

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Oh I didn't even notice the new wall of crap that you posted, lets see what do we have here


You seem upset :33

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Wolverine being reduced to a skeleton...sure...lets take that instance and ignore the more regular instances of him getting his ass kicked by street levelers...BRILLIANT


He's also survived other such nifty shit like punches from Hulk and Thor (both of who are, individually, far more destructive than Bleach, MGS and DMC all combined and times'd by 1 sextillion)

Though if you want to play this game, Thanos can be beaten up by gangs of peak human cops and Thor and Heralds of Galactus can be tagged by Spiderman, Captain America and Wolverine

And to quote myself, again:

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Most debating site, this one included use positive feedback, it's where we take the higher end feats of a character and assume it to be an accurate portrayal of their abilities

If we don't, it just devolves into endless streams of nitpicking. Want to nitpick and establish a true statistical mean? Want to know what we get? City block level skyfathers, small building level DBZ characters, etc

Reason why verses like Marvel, DC, DBZ, YYH, Warhammer 40,000, Star Wars, etc are considered as powerful as they are


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Bullets and blades are overrated by authors


Indeed

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...well unfortunately you're the only one who feels this way


You sure about that chuckles :maybe

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...I don't even have to use Wonder Woman either, standard Amazon swords and spears have injured Superman worse than getting hit by magically enchanted blunt force attacks..Captain Marvel and Black Adam are two characters that come to mind..


Been there and done that, guns are portrayed as far more powerful than they should be, yadda yadda yadda

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A SW Blaster Bolt is actually slow, it's not made out of light, it's made out of plasma..Halo is another example, a lot of Covenant fire arms are slower than ballistics are.


Because Star Wars blaster bolts have never crossed many kilometers in secon.... *recalls Geonosis, Kashhyk and Hoth*.... oh never mind

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That's all


Hooray?


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Based on the fact that when a MGS Rail gun fires the most it does is destroy a tree, or a few crates...

What rail gun IRL has impact like the piss poor MGS Rail guns??


And now we're appealing to lack of collateral damage?

To take the same logic in DBZ for a mo, Piccolo's attack razes an island in the 23rd Bodukai (sp?), in the Android Saga, Cell's attack manages to seriously damage Gohan, there was little collateral damage, yet would you claim an attack that can damage a SSJ2 has far less power than a 23rd Bodukai attack due to lack of collateral damage?

**** no you would not


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And now we're appealing to lack of collateral damage?

To take the same logic in DBZ for a mo, Piccolo's attack razes an island in the 23rd Bodukai (sp?), in the Android Saga, Cell's attack manages to seriously damage Gohan, there was little collateral damage, yet would you claim an attack that can damage a SSJ2 has far less power than a 23rd Bodukai attack due to lack of collateral damage?

**** no you would not
Most DBZ Characters if not all can condense their ki attacks, something that MGS characters and their precious rail guns cannot do.

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I seem upset, coming from the guy who was yelling terms like faggotry earlier lol

Alright what do we have this time?

Even if he's taken hits from Thor and Hulk, there's more instances of him taking hits from Captain America or other human fighters

It's really simple, anyone with a moderate amount of strength and punching power could KO Wolverine in only a few hits. On a regular basis

But considering you didn't even know who Mr X was, you obviously know jack about the character and are in no position to make any comments

No one uses higher end feats, if Captain America could actually hurt the Hulk with punches, he'd tear most human combatants heads off, that isn't the case.

Consistency is the only thing that matters. If you have 10 fights of Captain America beating Wolverine and one fight of Wolverine beating the Hulk, guess what? The Captain America fights are more consistent.

This is common knowledge but then again, look who I'm talking to

Been there, done that, you're still in the wrong...next

I'm sure there have been instances of blaster bolts moving across long distances but the typical blaster bolts that characters in the movie avoid are slower, plasma based shots and not even close to sub sonic speed.


Anything else? No?

Thank god, I think I'm amount to enter a coma reading more of your post...

You're boring me at this point, you have nothing of value to offer this or any thread and lost the argument a while ago...since everyone agrees Ichigo stomps then that's really the end of the thread

And just so I don't have to read another mind numbing post from you, I saved a nice spot on my ignore list...

no.. you aren't a good debater or intelligent, quite the opposite of that...don't get the wrong idea

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I seem upset, coming from the guy who was yelling terms like faggotry earlier lol


Nice "no u" response :maybe

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Even if he's taken hits from Thor and Hulk, there's more instances of him taking hits from Captain America or other human fighters


Which is what I was explaining to you earlier, which is where we take the higher end feats of anything and assume it to be an accurate portrayal of their abilities and now nitpicking lowere ends is frowned upon

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It's really simple, anyone with a moderate amount of strength and punching power could KO Wolverine in only a few hits. On a regular basis


If they have more power than a nuke, than yeah

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But considering you didn't even know who Mr X was, you obviously know jack about the character and are in no position to make any comments


Hey now, no need to be upset

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No one uses higher end feats, if Captain America could actually hurt the Hulk with punches, he'd tear most human combatants heads off, that isn't the case.


Ever heard of outliers? Kinda thinking you haven't =/

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Consistency is the only thing that matters. If you have 10 fights of Captain America beating Wolverine and one fight of Wolverine beating the Hulk, guess what? The Captain America fights are more consistent.


Consistency in the sense that if there's several high ends we use those

Low ends will always massively outweigh the high end ones in any fictional medium, comics, anime, manga, video games, etc

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This is common knowledge but then again, look who I'm talking to

Been there, done that, you're still in the wrong...next


Denial isn't just a river in Egypt chuckles :maybe

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I'm sure there have been instances of blaster bolts moving across long distances but the typical blaster bolts that characters in the movie avoid are slower, plasma based shots and not even close to sub sonic speed.


Which brings me back around to the whole "high ends are taken at greater face value and low ends are just ignored"

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lost the argument a while ago...since everyone agrees Ichigo stomps then that's really the end of the thread


Funny that, since I never said Raiden would actually win to begin with

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And just so I don't have to read another mind numbing post from you, I saved a nice spot on my ignore list...

no.. you aren't a good debater or intelligent, quite the opposite of that...don't get the wrong idea


Nice ragequit

Matter of fact, I accept your concession on the basis you ignored most of my posts

When you have something of merit, then we can have a talk and (if you like) a sexy time :maybe

Until then, have fun with dat denial chuckles :3

EDIT: I see you lurking :hmm

I await your response, I know you will go back on your word and respond to me as butthurt ****wads like you normally do :maybe


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Based on the fact that when a MGS Rail gun fires the most it does is destroy a tree, or a few crates...

What rail gun IRL has impact like the piss poor MGS Rail guns??
Are you stating that the in-game, very specific joules listing is wrong just because you don't like how the visuals portray it?

And seeing as a 10MJ one is barely above wall level...


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