Krayt additionally has shatterpoint, and Tutaminis, able to absorb force lightning bare handed, something only a very few force users have been observed doing (Revan, Yoda, Karness Muur, Krayt, and Wyyrlok). Tutaminis means lightning defenses and offenses do not mean much to him, he does not even need a saber to defend in the way most do.
Not sure about that- Wyyrlok beat one of the most famed Sith sorcerers in a sorcery contest, and was getting at the level where he though he could be master of the One Sith.
He's capable of killing purely with illusion.
You mean Kaan's?
Indeed.
Also on speed, Obi-wan has some impressive speed feats, yet youngHett was quite capable of keeping up with him.
I don't need his calculations to know that forming a shield over his head is the only way the feat makes any sense, really.
Tell me how a downpour of rain would make forming a shield any more impressive.
I would think it was a damn good speed feat as far as just raw movement is concerned, and it would suggest that he has a great defense provided that he can react to and form the shield before his opponent can make an attack, and provided he can keep up that shield/defense, and in Bane's case the fact that he did so for 10+ minutes makes the feat more impressive than just merely forming the shield, IMO.
Take Vader's feat of deflecting those blaster bolts in NewGuy's post, for example, and mentally replace those bolts with gouts of rain. It would be hard for any drops of rain to get through that defense provided Vader can keep up that raw display of saber movement. In terms of reaction speed (thought processing speed), though, the ability to instantly react to those blaster bolts would require a faster reaction than Bane reacting to a rain storm, considering that bolts travel far faster than rain. However, it would require greater stamina to deflect a rainstorm due to the constant of the downpour. That said, both feats do not translate to striking speed, they are just displays of reaction speed and/or demonstrations of 'raw-movement-speed' and stamina, none of which suggests the ability to utilize that speed skillfully in saber duel. That's why I think you're better off using Bane's dueling feats, unless the rain feat alone suggests Bane is far faster than his opponent, and in this case, I don't think it does.
Lucky for me Palpatine has displayed similar (and superior) speed in and out of combat situations. Don't think that I don't think you know this (lol).
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Krayt's feat of blitzing the Knights is vastly overrated. Bane, as a neophyte (felt like writing Nephthys there) all the way back in Path of Destruction, ran faster than Sith apprentices could even see, which is exactly what Krayt did.
Feat wise, Bane's raw power supersedes Krayt's, his physical feats are similar, whereas his skill is on a somewhat similar level to Krayt's.
Sids 66, there's no such thing as a universal "shield" that your lightsaber can form. It resembles a shield by making such quick rotations, but the quicker the rotations, the more effective the shield is.
What's so impressive about the rain feat is the constant nature of the rain, and the thoroughness of area it covers. Bane has to be able to rotate his saber faster than it takes a single drop of rain to fall about a few cms.
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And because of the tremendous wind, the rain would be coming in from more directions than just above.
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I acknowledged this, reread my post. Still don't see how it translates to skillful/precise strikes in the midst of a saber duel.
Likewise with deflecting blaster bolts. In order to block several blaster bolts that are spread out and coming in all at once would require that one must move his saber faster than it takes a single bolt (which, as I said, travels at a far greater speed than a drop of rain, not to mention it also makes a more forceful impact) to travel a few cms, no?
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Because the rain truly was constant and the idea that such a scenario has been replicated with blaster bolts that Force Users have defended against is wishful thinking. It might look like they're all being fired at the exact same time in a comic or whatever but chances are each one is being fired at a different time, and all the FU has to do is move fast enough to account for that difference.
When you can prove a scenario with blaster bolts coming continuously at you from every angle at the same time, get back to me brah.
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Btw, something else some may not realize- Krayt at the beginning of Legacy was specifically weaker than his height with his armor, Wyyrlok said Krayt would not have died had he been as strong as he was in the past.
Krayt went, "Strong with armor (Abeloth fight, Wyyrlok's youth, etc.), weakened with armor due to continual growths (early Legacy), Reborn and stronger than ever (War)."
Andeddu was restored to life, in a living physical body. Just as ClonePalpatine and Vitiate were not in their originals.
Furthermore, he had his scepter as well, containing a crystal of the type seen in force enhancers (and which shattered when he lost the mental contest).
It was an armed, living Andeddu in that fight.
Pfft, Masters >>> Apprentices. Especially when the apprentices were from an era known to be weak in training, and even non-senior IKs have been seen to fight well against non-apprentice sith, even taking on some Sith masters (Imperial Knights at the padawan level are not considered Imperial Knights yet, and nor do IKs promote people based on wisdom or diplomacy or healing like Jedi sometimes do. One has to be at least the level of a combat-trained full Jedi Knight to get the title. Jao Assim, a full IK but not a senior one, is able to go toe-to-toe with Darth Luft, a Sith Master in charge of building a secret fleet, who chumped multiple IK Initiates without effort).
And these were ones coming at him from all sides, including behind.
If you want running over weaklings, Wolf Sazen and Shado Vao have done that (with full sith warriors, not apprentices), and Cade is stronger than them, but much weaker than Krayt.
We know Kas'im can handle his speed, he did handle his speed.
Which is something of an argument against Bane being this blitz-almost-all combatant- a number of foes from the Battle of Ruusian era were able to contest him in saber (losing due to skill or force or similar, not pure speed), and that is by no means the strongest era around.
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