It was the same blast as the one at the end of Annihilation. Thanos was narrating those events and we see Thanos' corpse floating in space without a scratch on his body despite having been at the center of the blast.
Or better yet, watch the movie for yourself. It's where Bills and Whis were first introduced and decided to give King Kai a visit.
Dragon Ball characters have been close to light speed since Piccolo blew up the moon(it takes one second for light to reach the moon from the earth). They've far surpassed the speed of light and that's not up for debate unless you want to downplay the shit out of them.
I don't understand how anyone can claim otherwise. We have people like Roshi throwing a blast at the moon and destroying it. There was no timeframe, but how long do you think it took? 1 second? 2 seconds? 3 seconds? 5 seconds? 10 seconds? 20 seconds? 100 seconds? 1000 seconds? So assuming 1000 seconds (when it clearly wasn't more than 5 seconds), Dragon Ball characters in very early Dragon Ball had reactions at 1/1000th the speed of light. So are you going to tell me that, say, Saiyan Saga Vegeta, wasn't 1000 times faster than child Goku?
You don't need a timeframe when it clearly didn't take more than 10 seconds. It's pretty much common sense that Frieza was at least a billion times superior to Saiyan Saga Piccolo. You're literally trying to make up excuses because you're not comfortable with light speed+ Dragon Ball characters.
But I'll still give it a shot for you. In the anime, it was shown to almost instantly reach the moon
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Same with the manga(it reaches the moon in the same panel as the one where the blast is created)
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There's also Goku's IT being "slower" than Cell's Kamehameha.
Watch the movie to see for yourself. I'm not going to post screenshots for you because you want to debate without knowing a single thing about Bills.
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Why is the burden of proof isolated to Dragon Ball all the time? If you read Dragon Ball from start to finish only then can you grasp the concept of how powerful they become from their high street days of Pilaf Saga. You prove that Thanos is faster than Tien. Where is your proof? Don't assume your fan service American comics are so superior.
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No, man. Thor's fought Silver Surfer who just happens to ALWAYS fight at ftl. That's why Thor is faster than any DBZ character even though he's never blitzed any speedster in his life!!!
Last edited by TheTyrant on May 8th, 2014 at 12:13 AM
I believe that this battle happened. Does Thor always fight speed of light? Why didn't Thor use Speed of Light on hulk or a number of other enemies? I may be low balling but there are so many different versions of Thor and so many reboots and different story writers that it would only be a matter of time before Thor fights on equal footing with someone obviously stronger. We've got to determine what version of a character we use.
As for Thanos we should use the Super Hero Squad version. Because he's a dude. Wiped out half the galaxy with a wave of his hand and could do pretty much whatever he wanted. He could take everyone on Dragon Ball Z, no one else can bring Captain Marvel (I think that was his name) to his knees with flower pots like Thanos did. =D
Someone's clearly unfimiliar with jobbing in comics
I mean it's not as if Surfer, Beta Ray Bill or Gladiator were like "hey look it's Thor, he's been tagged by Wolverine and Spiderman, better slow down so I don't blitz his ass straight away"
Plus vs debating tends to favor the higher end spectrum of feats in any debate
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There is no denia; Silver Surfer, Gladiator, and Thor don't fight at ftl. Thor's been tagged by Hulk many many times in the past (in very serious fights at that) so unless you want to claim that Hulk is ftl you should drop this.
Dragon Ball characters don't have quantifiable speed either, but they're clearly faster than light by the end of Z and clearly massively faster than light in Battle of Gods.
You didn't answer my question. What issue of Thanos Imperative did it state that Galactus destroyed a galaxy in ANNIHILATION. The best he did was deestroy 3 solar systems in ANNIHILATION.
>If DBZ is constantly low ended
>That's when the Z Fighters focus their energy into speed to have reflexes and dodges that make their travelling speed look pretty insignificant.
>Reflexes were FTL for a long time in DBZ, actually being Faster than Light happened somewhere in the Majin saga.
I'm no Fanboy but I do recall this one scene. Final form Frieza shoots a death Beam at Gohan, no one even saw it or followed it with their chi sensing. All these characters a hyper sonic speed, and couldn't follow this attack. Vegeta Out speeds it flying and knocks Gohan out of the way. This is Namek Saga and if Vegeta is outrunning energy attacks that are many times faster then energy attacks that reach the moon in about a second (or almost instantly in Piccolo's case) that would put him way in front of light speed by Majin Saga.
However... you may proceed with the no it doesn't respond.
Thor fighting the Hulk is not a low-end feat for him since it's happened 10s of times. How many comic books have you read in your life? Stop going purely by respect threads and what other people keep telling you.
Those 4chan arrows don't really prove anything. I mean you just admitted to not having watched Battle of Gods.
Dragon Ball characters are massively faster than light unless you want to claim that fcking Roshi's blast didn't reach the moon in a few seconds in which case I'd call you a blind fanboy. Final form Frieza is literally trillions of times more powerful than Roshi in every regard. I know I'm right since I can use my own common sense and conclude that Roshi and Piccolo's blasts didn't take more than 10 seconds to reach the moon; you can stay as the OBD sheep on KMC.
Not a DBZ fan but here you go in addition to the things to other guy posted
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That Kamehameha traveled twice the earth's radius in less than the instant that it takes for IT to teleport from one place to another. Common argument I've encountered against that is 'lolactivation time' when no such thing has ever been mentioned. You don't need a timeframe for that since you know it can travel light years in an instant since it's basically teleportation.
Bills and Whis also flew from one side of the universe to King Kai's planet in 15 or so minutes, but I believe that was already mentioned.
And in regards to Galactus' blast it's in one of the tie-in issues to Imperative. I'll try to find it for you but it's been a while. It's in the Galactus respect thread though.
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