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Darth Zannah vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi
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If his opponent was a defensive type, there would be no reason to hold a defensive stance. *That* is what doesn't make much tactical sense.


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What doesn't make much sense though is trying to power through them.


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I highly doubt Kenobi would try to overpower someone whose style is meant to prevent exactly that. It doesn't make much tactical sense.


So then what would be the tactically intelligent option? He would be using Ataru, and possibly Shii-cho and Niman against a user who only uses Soresu. They can't both be using Soresu...

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So then what would be the tactically intelligent option? He would be using Ataru, and possibly Shii-cho and Niman against a user who only uses Soresu. They can't both be using Soresu...

He would be using Ataru, but he wouldn't be wasting all of his energy in a desperate attempt to overwhelm her.


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It means Kenobi would press the offensive in the way that he did.


Which means his offense would be FAR less effective.

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Which means his offense would be FAR less effective.

Kenobi has never shown himself going all-out on offensive except for in the cases where Darth Maul pissed him off.


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He would be using Ataru, but he wouldn't be wasting all of his energy in a desperate attempt to overwhelm her.


I never said he would try and overwhelm her. He would most likely eventually try and out think her and use the environment to his advantage as he did against Anakin.

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I never said he would try and overwhelm her. He would most likely eventually try and out think her and use the environment to his advantage as he did against Anakin.

So then he's not overwhelming her to the extent to which she wouldn't be able to call upon her force abilities.


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Kenobi has never shown himself going all-out on offensive except for in the cases where Darth Maul pissed him off.


And, when he did that he was less effective. In this case with Zannah, his offensive capabilities would be far greater.

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He's not overwhelming her, but he had the ability to withstand Anakin's "meteor strike" offense. Ok Emp. Makes total sense. Zannah got whittled down by Sarro, and even in her PIS duel with Bane was gradually getting bested by him.

Anakin is a better Djem so fighter than Bane, Kenobi has torn up spider droids with his bare hands. While he may not have Bane's durasteel rippin hands, he's got more than enough power to wear her down


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And, when he did that he was less effective. In this case with Zannah, his offensive capabilities would be far greater.

And again because you seem to have repeated yourself twice. Without Darth Maul pissing him off, I have never seen Obi-wan fling himself out into an all-out offensive dervish. Kenobi simply cannot overwhelm Zannah to the extent to which she wouldn't be able to call upon her force powers.


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He'd be the one on the offense as Zannah has never been depicted and due to her weak physicality cannot maintain an offense against Kenobi.

Her force abilities take time to prep, and as witnessed in the duel with Anakin Kenobi has superior reflexes and speed.

He STOMPS her


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So then he's not overwhelming her to the extent to which she wouldn't be able to call upon her force abilities.


Well, if he were to try and completely overwhelm her, he would lose all of his energy. When he isn't pissed of his offense would be much more focused and precise. He would be trying to buy time for him to use Sokan or something like that.

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Nah.



Nah.
mmm. pretty convincing. Kenobi stomps of course

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Kenobi has never shown himself going all-out on offensive except for in the cases where Darth Maul pissed him off.


Yeah he never tried to stab Anakin, or use his force abilities to disable him in the Mustafar duel.

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Well, if he were to try and completely overwhelm her, he would lose all of his energy. When he isn't pissed of his offense would be much more focused and precise. He would be trying to buy time for him to use Sokan or something like that.

Time he doesn't have if Zannah applies her force abilities.


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Kenobi. Across the board, he's a significantly better duelist, more physically imposing, and similarly powerful.


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A very long and fierce battle but in the end we all know who will win...


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So then basically, we can throw those feats out the window? Since she has never replicated them past that point, and when she did do it, they were all completely caught off guard.


No, why would we discard them? The Jedi being taken off-guard (though as Astor said, they likely still had their defenses up) doesn't dismiss the fact that Zannah instinctively snapped two peoples necks nor does Davorit being unable to fight back dismiss the fact that she purposefully disintegrated his hand without any training whatsoever. It only stands to reason that she could perform much greater feats later with much greater Force Mastery. Disintegration and snapping necks are high quality TK already imo.

Zannah also blocked this, again instinctively and with no training:

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Pretty damn impressive imo.

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Thats dumb. How big was the wave?

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Anakin couldn't overpower Obi-Wan with TK. Anakin has better TK feats than Bane. Advantage: Kenobi.


Anakin was emotionally disturbed. Also no he doesn't, lmao.

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Kenobi has torn up spider droids with his bare hands.


When.




Also, in all seriousness, Zannah would take Kenobi out right at the start with a single Sith Spell. He hasn't got the chops to block her tearing his mind apart with Sorcery. /thread.


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Neph, if it were that easy, Zannah would have killed Sarro before he even approached her. Or she would have used the spell on Bane before the fight even started.


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