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Apollo vs Wonder Man

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Apollo takes this one .


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Apollo wins, but it's a tough fight.


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Simon wins. He hits like Thor's hammer.

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WM, powers and abilities are similar to Hulk. What I mean by that, the madder the stronger he becomes.

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Apollo wins, but it's a tough fight.


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Really? Simon recently choked Rulk out and he was armwrestling Thor to a standstill under the very same writer.

Also he took lasers in the microverse better than Thor.


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Really? Simon recently choked Rulk out and he was armwrestling Thor to a standstill under the very same writer.

Also he took lasers in the microverse better than Thor.


We're gonna get into "most recent vs. body-of-work" argument here, involving outlier showings and averages and all that great stuff. Which is a debate that I don't want to have. I'll just throw the bone that the "...but it's a tough fight" part from my quoted post is an agreement that it could go either way, and that if someone is higher on Simon than me and lower on Apollo, it's a reasonable opinion to see it going the other way. WM is probably the best Marvel matchup for Apollo in terms of matching like to like, so there's very few wrong answers here (outside of "stomps" either way and similarly polarized nonsense).


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Originally posted by Digi
We're gonna get into "most recent vs. body-of-work" argument here, involving outlier showings and averages and all that great stuff. Which is a debate that I don't want to have. I'll just throw the bone that the "...but it's a tough fight" part from my quoted post is an agreement that it could go either way, and that if someone is higher on Simon than me and lower on Apollo, it's a reasonable opinion to see it going the other way. WM is probably the best Marvel matchup for Apollo in terms of matching like to like, so there's very few wrong answers here (outside of "stomps" either way and similarly polarized nonsense).

But Simon received an official upgrade under Bendis, so his previous showings have less weight than his past showings.

How strong is Apollo compared to Thor IYO? Because Simon is nigh equal to Thor in strength most days.


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Abhi, only time will tell. Under one persons pen, Simon is gold, under another, he's garbage. Well maybe not garbage, because that's too strong of a word for him, but he's prone to failure once he reaches the big leagues. I agree with Digi on this, a few showings may not stop certain writers from ignoring several lack luster performances of the past.


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Rulk is a huge overrated push over.

Apollo wins after a good fight, I agree with Digi.


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Originally posted by Bentley
Rulk is a huge overrated push over.

Apollo wins after a good fight, I agree with Digi.

He's a pushover who under Bendis was more durable than Thor and as strong as him.


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He's a pushover who under Bendis was more durable than Thor and as strong as him.


Yeah, their respective battles against Angrir depicts them as equals


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Yeah, their respective battles against Angrir depicts them as equals

Rulk doesn't has mjolnir.


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And its not like Rulk outperformed Thor directly under Bendis.

http://i.imgur.com/lGrjzLa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LsW1N87.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rTAEA5M.jpg

Thor is still in La-La land while Rulk is taking on Hood again.

http://i.imgur.com/cBQDAIb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AhJ1h7U.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rU2iH6b.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LgBBxzb.jpg

Or direct stalemate in strength via armwrestling.

http://i.imgur.com/FrUpHnZ.jpg

It was shown in background but the implication is pretty clear.


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Well, would I give a Thor without mjolnir the win against Apollo?


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Well, would I give a Thor without mjolnir the win against Apollo?

I would. I imagine digi would too.


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I would. I imagine digi would too.



Thor has the high feats to back up his sh*t. Not even Wonderman has the "going all out" quality that Thor has shown at his best. As for Average Thor it seems Digi already preferred Apollo


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Thor has the high feats to back up his sh*t. Not even Wonderman has the "going all out" quality that Thor has shown at his best. As for Average Thor it seems Digi already preferred Apollo

Eh, I would back average Thor against Apollo.


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