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Darth Caedus vs Hero of Tython
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Nephthys
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Look up bro. She looks like a gal to me.


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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Laugh at this:

The Sith Emperor is the most powerful Force-user who has ever existed. Unless this implacable enemy can be defeated, the Jedi Order is doomed. (SWTORE, Page 89)

The Sith Emperor has mastered the dark side's power to become the most dominating Force-user the galaxy has ever seen. (SWTOR: Codex Entry)


laughing out loud

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LOOOOL.
You mean in the third person omniscient limited encyclopedia that didn't even know the aftermath of Hero vs Vitiate or that Malgus was defeated?
Also, don't give me that BBY/ABBY crap, that calender was founded in 25,053 BBY (idk how, but it did)
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gala...andard_Calendar

From SWTOR(E):

"NEW ERA OF THE EMPIRE

The Sith Empire reels from its near destruction at the hands of MALGUS THE BETRAYER, the once revered Imperial war hero. While Malgus's rebellion ended in failure, the fire of his revolution lives on.

Rampant dissatisfaction rots the core of the Empire. Military leaders lose faith in their fight. Sith Lords once united against the Republic now abandon the Empire to embark on bold power grabs. And amidst the chaos, Imperial worlds begin falling to the Republic.

As the Empire loses its grip on the galaxy, rumors rage about the assassination of the Sith Emperor. The Republic celebrates, but the citizens of the Empire know that their supreme leader is absent when they need him the most.

But hope still burns in millions of Imperial hearts. DARTH MARR steps forward from his Dark Council seat to guide the Empire's resurgence. Aliens join the Imperial ranks, as Sith recognize the wisdom of Darth Malgus's inclusive ideals. Loyal Sith and patriotic soldiers fight to repel the oppressive Republic, not knowing that the key to Empire's victory is close at hand...."


Stop embarrassing yourself, really.

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Are you really saying that Vitiate is more powerful than Sidious?

I don't get to officially rank the characters.

The official accolades of Sith Emperor are in front of you, they imply that Sith Emperor surpassed every other Force-user in power in history. Now whether The Ones and Abeloth further grew in power with passage of time is unclear to me.

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laughing out loud

Nothing funny about it.

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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
From SWTOR(E):

"NEW ERA OF THE EMPIRE

The Sith Empire reels from its near destruction at the hands of MALGUS THE BETRAYER, the once revered Imperial war hero. While Malgus's rebellion ended in failure, the fire of his revolution lives on.

Rampant dissatisfaction rots the core of the Empire. Military leaders lose faith in their fight. Sith Lords once united against the Republic now abandon the Empire to embark on bold power grabs. And amidst the chaos, Imperial worlds begin falling to the Republic.

As the Empire loses its grip on the galaxy, rumors rage about the assassination of the Sith Emperor. The Republic celebrates, but the citizens of the Empire know that their supreme leader is absent when they need him the most.

But hope still burns in millions of Imperial hearts. DARTH MARR steps forward from his Dark Council seat to guide the Empire's resurgence. Aliens join the Imperial ranks, as Sith recognize the wisdom of Darth Malgus's inclusive ideals. Loyal Sith and patriotic soldiers fight to repel the oppressive Republic, not knowing that the key to Empire's victory is close at hand...."

Exactly, it ends with "rumors the Emperor is dead" but its unclear. They don't yet know if its' true, and what will happen next. Hence: it's in a third person limited omniscient view. Thanks for proving my point.


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Nephthys
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I dunno, that seems no different from the standard Star Wars title crawl. Is that third person limited omniscient too?


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Yes...? It doesn't know what's gonna happen next.


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Exactly, it ends with "rumors the Emperor is dead" but its unclear. They don't yet know if its' true, and what will happen next. Hence: it's in a third person limited omniscient view. Thanks for proving my point.

I am not sure what you are babbling about here but all stories of SWTOR up to level 50 have been fully covered in SWTOR(E). Of-course, this book doesn't covers future content because such content wasn't released or finished at the time of release date of this book.

SWTOR(E) covers events within timeline between 30,000 BBY - 3,640 BBY

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Thank you.
Which means it doesn't know of Palpatine.
Hence, Vitiate's accolades mean nothing to the Sith who came after because the Encyclopedia doesn't cover them


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Also, force-user is, more often than not, just a shorthand for 'Jedi, Sith, or member of some other faction (or none at all) that also uses the Force', which is, I'm sure you'll agree, somewhat impractical for everyday usage. Even assuming that the encyclopedia knows of the existence of the Ones, you'd also have to assume that it was including them when using the term 'force-user', which you typically wouldn't.

Which leaves us with Vitiate being, up until that point, the most powerful Jedi, Sith, or member of some other faction (or none at all) that also uses the Force who ever lived. That's okay. It's still pretty impressive.

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Thank you.
Which means it doesn't know of Palpatine.
Hence, Vitiate's accolades mean nothing to the Sith who came after because the Encyclopedia doesn't cover them

Yes, but Force-users superior to Palpatine have existed before him.

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Also, force-user is, more often than not, just a shorthand for 'Jedi, Sith, or member of some other faction (or none at all) that also uses the Force', which is, I'm sure you'll agree, somewhat impractical for everyday usage. Even assuming that the encyclopedia knows of the existence of the Ones, you'd also have to assume that it was including them when using the term 'force-user', which you typically wouldn't.

Which leaves us with Vitiate being, up until that point, the most powerful Jedi, Sith, or member of some other faction (or none at all) that also uses the Force who ever lived. That's okay. It's still pretty impressive.

Their is no rocket science about what Force-user term means. It covers all Force-users irrespective of alliances and conditions.

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Yes, but Force-users superior to Palpatine have existed before him.

No Dark Side user besides the Son, according to the accolades I provided.


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No Dark Side user besides the Son, according to the accolades I provided.

The accolades that you provided are from sources predating SWTOR(E) in real-world context.

Abeloth also existed prior to Palpatine. I am sure that with passage of time, more will turn up.

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Their is no rocket science about what Force-user term means. It covers all Force-users irrespective of alliances and conditions. [/B]

In the strictest sense, sure. That's not the point I was making, though, nor was it the only point I had.

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SWTOR(E) means nothing however, because the accolades only refer to that time and before. Therefore, Sidious is still the most powerful Sith Lord.


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Who cares about this. This is the wrong place to be arguing this.


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Yes, the argument at hand involves how badly the HoT would beat Caedus stick out tongue


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Pretty badly I would say. yes


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SWTOR(E) means nothing however, because the accolades only refer to that time and before. Therefore, Sidious is still the most powerful Sith Lord.

Sidious's position is in respect to one specific Order.

Sith Emperor is a Sith only in label/pretention, he is a dark side practitioner who doesn't cares about Sith ideals.

TOR sources rank Sith Emperor on a grand scale and not just one specific order:-

"The Sith Emperor, history's most powerful dark side master, performed a ritual of incredible scope to consume the life energy of every being on his homeworld."

"The Sith Emperor is the most powerful Force-user who has ever existed. Unless this implacable enemy can be defeated, the Jedi Order is doomed."

"The Sith Emperor has mastered the dark side's power to become the most dominating Force-user the galaxy has ever seen."

Red from SWTOR(E) and blue from SWTOR(G).

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STOP ARGUING SIDIOUS VS. VITIATE! WHAT ARE YOU TWO GAINING OUT OF THIS!?!?!?!


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