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Oh, Mercenaries. Honestly, I can't stand that mode. It does offer replayability though, that's true.


Mebbe u no good at it bro.

U MAD?

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No, you're right. Well, unless maybe you count the No Hope difficulty that puts Professional to shame, but that was mainly there for those who welcome that kind of challenge and was optional. But yeah, as far as fun replayability, mercs will always be one of the saving graces of an RE game. Same with some of the multiplayer DLC's to an extent (not all of them, but some), like the Ustanak mode.


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I mean, I obviously appreciated what the first installments did for the genre and how they scared me when I was younger but I cannot go back and play these games. I've tried but these are DATED games, by almost every sense of the word.

I mean, the voice acting in one alone just drains the suspense right out of it. The remake isn't so bad but RE1 (original) also lacks atmosphere. I felt like RE2 made up for that in so many ways, even though it's voice acting is kind of sh*t as well.

I mean, I even have trouble going back to RE2. There's a lot of moments in those two games that startle me and have me jump but genuinely scaring me? I mean, not so much. Again, I think RE2 is greater in this regard as well. (I mean, your first encounter with Mr. X? Come on, who didn't soil themselves?)

However, these games don't have the dynamic storytelling that the later installments have. There's no moment where a completely triumphant Wesker is whipping around a room, skillfully smashing Chris and Jill until Jill makes the ultimate sacrifice to "win" the rumble. NOTHING like that happened. Sure, there were moments but the narration was lacking, compared to the newer games.

RE6 had scary moments too but was more of a complete game. I was nervous as Leon when Tall Oaks essentially became Raccoon City 2.0 because it took me back. However, later on, waking up in the lab, scrambling to reunite Jack and Sherry as BOWs hunt you down was also terrifying but just different.

Some people weren't scared but I was. I find a lot of the hate, and this is anecdotal, has to do with people's nostalgia and the fact that they were younger so were not desensitized or as likely to be scared by these games, (I'm lucky enough that games like this still scared the living daylights out of me.) which ends up translating to the newer ones being "average," "not as good," or "not feeling like an RE game."

I have never felt that. It's not a common perspective and some people may not understand but I've never picked up an RE title, especially an entry into the primary series, and felt it wasn't a "true" RE game. I felt that and I realize that it had to be different. I'm sorry but I would have been bored to tears if I was wandering in a mansion again with similar controls (The controls are also what made the initial installments scary. It added to it) or anywhere else with T-Virus zombies.

Also, it made sense for these viruses to have counterparts/evolve/be different. Look at the giant nefarious company behind the development of this virus and their containment issues/f*ck ups. It makes sense it happened again and with many of their other viruses. It makes sense that a company with similar interests (Tricell) continued Umbrella's work.

I don't know. RE5 did well enough critically but I feel like RE6 got it bad and unfairly. I loved it and definitely thought it "felt" like Resident Evil. That's just me.


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I found Jake to be a decent character, wasn't the best, wasn't even the best new character introduced. He wasn't as bad as people make him sound, I believe Piers was the best new character and I think Capcom messed up by killing him off. I was so excited at the thought of him taking the reigns and leading his own squad in the BSAA. I was sure that Chris would've been back in future installments even if he did retire so I don't understand why he had to get killed off.


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I found Jake to be a decent character, wasn't the best, wasn't even the best new character introduced. He wasn't as bad as people make him sound, I believe Piers was the best new character and I think Capcom messed up by killing him off. I was so excited at the thought of him taking the reigns and leading his own squad in the BSAA. I was sure that Chris would've been back in future installments even if he did retire so I don't understand why he had to get killed off.


Oh God, I disagree so much. I couldn't stand Piers. My favorite semi-new introduction was Sherry definitely. I thought Jake was the coolest cat. Definitely.


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Oh God, I disagree so much. I couldn't stand Piers. My favorite semi-new introduction was Sherry definitely. I thought Jake was the coolest cat. Definitely.

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Concession accepted.


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I mean, I obviously appreciated what the first installments did for the genre and how they scared me when I was younger but I cannot go back and play these games. I've tried but these are DATED games, by almost every sense of the word.

I mean, the voice acting in one alone just drains the suspense right out of it. The remake isn't so bad but RE1 (original) also lacks atmosphere. I felt like RE2 made up for that in so many ways, even though it's voice acting is kind of sh*t as well.

I mean, I even have trouble going back to RE2. There's a lot of moments in those two games that startle me and have me jump but genuinely scaring me? I mean, not so much. Again, I think RE2 is greater in this regard as well. (I mean, your first encounter with Mr. X? Come on, who didn't soil themselves?)

However, these games don't have the dynamic storytelling that the later installments have. There's no moment where a completely triumphant Wesker is whipping around a room, skillfully smashing Chris and Jill until Jill makes the ultimate sacrifice to "win" the rumble. NOTHING like that happened. Sure, there were moments but the narration was lacking, compared to the newer games.

RE6 had scary moments too but was more of a complete game. I was nervous as Leon when Tall Oaks essentially became Raccoon City 2.0 because it took me back. However, later on, waking up in the lab, scrambling to reunite Jack and Sherry as BOWs hunt you down was also terrifying but just different.

Some people weren't scared but I was. I find a lot of the hate, and this is anecdotal, has to do with people's nostalgia and the fact that they were younger so were not desensitized or as likely to be scared by these games, (I'm lucky enough that games like this still scared the living daylights out of me.) which ends up translating to the newer ones being "average," "not as good," or "not feeling like an RE game."

I have never felt that. It's not a common perspective and some people may not understand but I've never picked up an RE title, especially an entry into the primary series, and felt it wasn't a "true" RE game. I felt that and I realize that it had to be different. I'm sorry but I would have been bored to tears if I was wandering in a mansion again with similar controls (The controls are also what made the initial installments scary. It added to it) or anywhere else with T-Virus zombies.

Also, it made sense for these viruses to have counterparts/evolve/be different. Look at the giant nefarious company behind the development of this virus and their containment issues/f*ck ups. It makes sense it happened again and with many of their other viruses. It makes sense that a company with similar interests (Tricell) continued Umbrella's work.

I don't know. RE5 did well enough critically but I feel like RE6 got it bad and unfairly. I loved it and definitely thought it "felt" like Resident Evil. That's just me.


That's fair enough; I think we just get different things out of the games in the series.


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I will say that I was more freaked out in RE4 then I was in previous RE games. It was the pending dread of the chainsaw guy chasing me through the village, or El Gigante slowly moving towards me while I kick that door down. That's why RE4 was so damn intense for me because not one time did I feel comfortable.

I miss that in RE5 and RE6 and the previous versions.

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You didn't feel it in 2 or 3 with the tyrant or nemesis?


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Same. They were excellently done.


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You didn't feel it in 2 or 3 with the tyrant or nemesis?


I never played three (didn't have a PS1)

I only played 2 and while I was scared, it was the controls and dying that did it for me. In RE4, where the controls are much better, I was constantly freaked out.

I just replayed it and I got the same feeling as before. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't get that if I replayed 2. I'm much more desensitized when games try to do horror. A game like Outcast would of freaked the **** out of me if I played it in high school (when I played 2), but I wasn't nearly as a scared than I thought I would be.

Anyways, I hope RE7 goes back to RE4 and what made that game so awesome. I hope they do not go further back because I don't want to play some isometric, shitty ass control trying to be scary type of RE.

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I never played three (didn't have a PS1)

I only played 2 and while I was scared, it was the controls and dying that did it for me. In RE4, where the controls are much better, I was constantly freaked out.

I just replayed it and I got the same feeling as before. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't get that if I replayed 2. I'm much more desensitized when games try to do horror. A game like Outcast would of freaked the **** out of me if I played it in high school (when I played 2), but I wasn't nearly as a scared than I thought I would be.

Anyways, I hope RE7 goes back to RE4 and what made that game so awesome. I hope they do not go further back because I don't want to play some isometric, shitty ass control trying to be scary type of RE.


I know the feeling of being desensitized, sadly. sad

Honestly, I hope it goes back to the first three in terms of tone and atmosphere; it can have all of the good controls it likes, but those were the sweet spot for me.


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T-103 and Nemesis made me shit bricks.


Yeah me too ha ha. It was so bad that I turned it off, and sold the game. Real talk, I was so scared, that I almost soiled my pants laughing out loud whoo ha ha ha ha........... I was sore afraid.


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Yeah, Nemesis was pretty scary.


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I found Jake to be a decent character, wasn't the best, wasn't even the best new character introduced. He wasn't as bad as people make him sound, I believe Piers was the best new character and I think Capcom messed up by killing him off. I was so excited at the thought of him taking the reigns and leading his own squad in the BSAA. I was sure that Chris would've been back in future installments even if he did retire so I don't understand why he had to get killed off.

Couldn't agree more on Piers. Can agree on Jake as well; he was alright. Nothing too horrible, but wasn't that great either.

Much as I hate to admit it though, Piers' death did make the ending of Chris's campaign that much more powerful. Like hands down proved to be the best finale out of 6's campaigns because of the way it all ended, with the ending of Jake's coming in close 2nd. All IMO of course.

Maybe I'm just used to these kind of cliches, but the moment Chris told Piers he was gonna retire, I figured one of them would die in the end but just wasn't sure whom, because that's how things like that usually turn out, for the dramatic effect. Makes it even more sad for Chris though; just when he thought he would respectfully retire after having his fair share of fighting bioterrorism, only to find out that for some people the battle never ends.

Still though, yeah. He and Leon could both use a break now for this next main game. Whether Jake or Sherry are back or not, I agree with others they should have some of the other characters they haven't used in awhile make a grand return. That's about the only thing there is to speculate or straw grasp as to what they could/should do for an RE7, before we see a trailer. :\


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I found Jake to be a decent character


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If he hadn't said what he said about Piers, then I'd might agree. lol


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Piers was awful. I don't understand the love he gets. Jake could be obnoxious but at least he had spunk. Piers made me want to rip my balls off.


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