How is that PIS and circumstantial? All it proves is that shes skilled enough to win despite being weaker in actual power.
And I already said, her victory over Sion wasn't circumstantial. She's way better than he is. And her defeat of the Trayas Academy wasn't circumstantial either. >:[
Darth Traya's greatest strength is giga-drain, something ineffective against the Jedi Exile. Darth Traya must resort to other efforts of victory then.
The combat before the Jedi Exile cut off her hand is implied that Darth Traya was not really trying, if at all. You must also take this in consideration.
Once the Jedi Exile cuts off her other arm, the circumstances that Darth Traya can no longer defend herself if the Jedi Exile closes in must be noted.
That being said, anyone surviving an encounter with Darth Traya must be pretty powerful. Anyone who can slaughter an academy *is* powerful.
I would classify the Jedi Exile, by the end of the game, to be the superior to Mandalorian Wars Revan, in which Darth Traya agrees.
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Alright. Make the topic and let's debate.
(The above debate will easily be covered in a proper one.)
This thread is for Nomi Sunrider, not Meetra Surik.
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(please log in to view the image) Sadly enough, I don't Darth Traya has ever been in a "fair fight."
"This place is your last test. It is the graveyard of the past, where you lost everything. It is the dark place in your mind that still echoes of failure. Now we shall see if you can overcome the weight of Malachor... and silence the echoes that beat from its heart."
After you chop off her arm, she states "You have yet to learn the full extent of power."
It can be safe to say that before her hands were vanquished, it was merely a test.
How does she have Force powers?
Wouldn't both her hands be gone?
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She did beat the shit out of Atton that one time. That was funny.
Besides, she was powerful enough to casually kill 7 Sith at once. Don't look down on her.
The entire game was a test. That doesn't make it any less real. Just because it was a test doesn't mean she was holding back. Traya specifically says she won't hold back because doing so would make everything pointless. The only way the Exile can pass the test is by legitimately beating her. If you'd payed attention you'd know that holding back on the Exile is counter to every philosophy Kreia holds.
Uh, what? You can use the Force without hands. :I
She killed over half a dozen Sith without even looking at them, she doesn't need to physically have fingers to attack with the Force. She still has stumps. And she's obviously able to use TK so wtf?
I'm not sure why you're so shocked. The Exile is pretty dang powerful. In some respects I'd say she surpassed him. Her ability to easily copy the skills of others would indicate a tremendous amount of technical skill.
Yet again, Darth Traya says "You have yet to learn the full extent of power."
I don't know what you consider that, but personally, that's a red mark signalling she wasn't unleashing her full power at first.
I was referring to Force Lightning.
Can you do that with stumps?
Darth Malak is superior to the Jedi Exile.
Currently making a thread about his power.
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Yeah, so I don't know why you don't find her defeat a more impressive display.
If you'd actually looked at the context you'd know she's referring to the Exile's will to act. She only says that if the Exile agree's to kill her, which she replies:
"Good... you have strength. But you have yet to learn the full extent of power."
It's clearly not referring to actual combat power.
Also it's a darkside choice so....
Yes.
I don't understand your reasoning here. So according to you Kreia wasn't unleashing her full power until the second half of the fight... at which point she was incapable of actually using it fully? WTF?
Lmao. Are we talking about Malak on the Star Forge or as his regular mediocre self? I'd be happy to make that thread, since I know you have ****-all able to prove that.
Who knows dude...who cares. Besides Nihilus, that game was only good for extreme Revan wank.
I couldn't care less about Meetra, don't know why you were determined to drag me into a debate with her.
It is only logical to expect those shitty responses, because I have absolutely no interest in the debate.
Revan or Malak are different stories, of course. I am referring to Star Forge Darth Malak.
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Regular Malak could hardly handle Leviathan Revan, weaker than the Exile, who is way weaker than end-game KotOR Revan, slightly stronger than the Exile, who he couldn't handle amped multiple times.
@Freshestslice.
That's the craziest shit I ever read, lmfao.
I'm not done my Malak thread yet, hold on.
"Yoda could hardly handle R2-D2, weaker then Darth Maul, who is way weaker then Darth Sidious, slightly stronger then The Sith Emperor, who he couldn't handle the power of the Hero of Tython."
The face of sheer logic. ^
@Neph. Traya and Nihilus were great.
The Exile, that homeless Jedi Council member, and everything else sucked more dick then you did last night.
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No it's not. Revan, on the Leviathan, has absolutely no access to what makes the Revan, from what we know, besides combat prowess, stated to be incomplete by everyone in game and by the mission log. The Exile, on the other hand, has only been stated to have a weakened connection to the Force in KotOR II. From the beginning, they have been stated to carry as a Jedi does, fight as an Echani does, and knows many Jedi survival techniques, things Revan has learned for a whopping few weeks, and second hand from Bastila. While some memories were returning, Revan is nowhere near as powerful as they are post Leviathan, where his power is confirmed to have increased due to remembering much more of his previous life as Revan, enough to even sway Bastila away from Malak, even seeing his previous performance only a week or two prior. The Exile is given no such limitation from the beginning of her journey in rediscovering the Force. For all intents and purposes, she is a fully trained and powerful Jedi Knight without the Force. Revan on the other hand, was a Padawan going off deja vu by every account accept yours.
I suggest you play KotOR.
It is stated by Vandar and Bastila that Malak grows more powerful by the second.
By the time of end-game, even without the Star Forge, he might have already surpassed Darth Revan.
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