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NemeBro
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Bleach is slow, "multi-continent" in this case means multiple IRL continents, Ancalagon only destroyed a few mountains, Jubi solos.


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I could say the same about using Kmc calc's as well dude, an also, Kmc has used these calc's before. I just haven't been able to find them.
The real funny thing here is that you claim bleach doesn't get any higher then Mach 20 when it was at that level during the SS arc, and Bleach got faster long afterwards

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Bleach is slow, "multi-continent" in this case means multiple IRL continents, Ancalagon only destroyed a few mountains, Jubi solos.


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Ancalagon destroyed three mountains larger then Everest by falling on them, along with destroying most of the continent. What the **** are you smoking?
Bleach IS NOT SLOW!

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You still haven't told me how Form 1 Juubi is continent busting level when all I've seen is Island level

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No matter how you put it, Las Noches is small country sized, and Lanza has to be Mach triple digits

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Also I'm pretty sure Naruto forums used those calc's as well.

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Bleach has been widely accepted as the Fastest of the Hst for a long time. What rock have you guys been under? Maybe your Naruto wank?

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I'm not from any forum place. But I do have a MC account, along with another one on this forum besides this one, and one on SpaceBattles. I think I have another one somewhere.

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Now that I have answered the question. Would you please give me proof of how in the world Bleach is being downplayed to only have Mach level of double digits when it was in that level years ago?
Also tell me how Juubi is continent level (In its first form) when all of its attacks look like Island Level?

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First, learn to stop multi-posting. It's frowned upon and consumes topic space

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The real funny thing here is that you claim bleach doesn't get any higher then Mach 20 when it was at that level during the SS arc, and Bleach got faster long afterwards


Non-sequiter

Also I said Mach 30 was the best calc for Bleach

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No matter how you put it, Las Noches is small country sized, and Lanza has to be Mach triple digits


There is a thread for that. Both notions were soundly defeated

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Bleach has been widely accepted as the Fastest of the Hst for a long time. What rock have you guys been under? Maybe your Naruto wank?


By who? MovieCodec? FactPile? Neither are credible boards, though I'd be far from surprised if this was the answer

Nardo is actually the fastest now, overtaking OP who used to be the fastest (originally it was Mach 16, when Clorox was Mach 11 and Nardo is Mach single digits

Time went on, new feats were found and evaluated


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First, learn to stop multi-posting. It's frowned upon and consumes topic space



Non-sequiter

Also I said Mach 30 was the best calc for Bleach



There is a thread for that. Both notions were soundly defeated



By who? MovieCodec? FactPile? Neither are credible boards, though I'd be far from surprised if this was the answer

Nardo is actually the fastest now, overtaking OP who used to be the fastest (originally it was Mach 16, when Clorox was Mach 11 and Nardo is Mach single digits

Time went on, new feats were found and evaluated



The Naruto wank is strong within this one smile
Notice the different time frames I post?
MC, Space battles, ect. heck every forum I've come across has said that.

Bleach was Mach 20 to 30 in SS arc. You clearly haven't read Bleach any further then that, since the downplaying your exhibiting is unbelievable.

I don't think Kmc is very credible either, as it is usually full of downplaying.
Anyway, do you even know how Mach numbers work and how you use them? Are you really saying Lanza is not in the tripple digits? What are you smoking?

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Link me to these supposed threads where the LN size and Lanza speed were deafeated

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The Naruto wank is strong within this one smile
Notice the different time frames I post?
MC, Space battles, ect. heck every forum I've come across has said that.


SpaceBattles. Same site than says Ichigo can stomp the Valar, Exalted-verse>LT, DMC3 Dante is way out of the league of the Primarchs, Accelerator can vector Superman Prime, Jedah can't solo Negima, Harry Potter spells can block Culture gridfire, Dumbledore can vaporise Manwe and Melkor with a Fiendfire

Totally worth taking seriously

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Bleach was Mach 20 to 30 in SS arc. You clearly haven't read Bleach any further then that, since the downplaying your exhibiting is unbelievable.


Dat non sequiter

Unless you have feats, saying "herp derp moar powerful than x and y time" doesn't qualify for a higher speed level

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I don't think Kmc is very credible either, as it is usually full of downplaying.


Oh?

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Anyway, do you even know how Mach numbers work and how you use them? Are you really saying Lanza is not in the tripple digits? What are you smoking?


I know how mach numbers work

Yes I am, because the small country size from what I gather is just shitty dialogue contradicted by visuals (again, Kubo's fault)

Bleach isn't even relevant here. Like, at all

Can't believe I'm arguing a HST topic here


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Oh and this is the lowest calc that could be given to Lanza on MC.

I can crunch the numbers even lower.

If we say it travelled only 1/4th of the 300 miles we get;

Mach 88.75 - 355.

That’s as low as it can possibly get, though.

You can believe it or not, but its more reasonable than the other calc's

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Originally posted by StealthRanger
SpaceBattles. Same site than says Ichigo can stomp the Valar, Exalted-verse>LT, DMC3 Dante is way out of the league of the Primarchs, Accelerator can vector Superman Prime, Jedah can't solo Negima, Harry Potter spells can block Culture gridfire, Dumbledore can vaporise Manwe and Melkor with a Fiendfire

Totally worth taking seriously



Dat non sequiter

Unless you have feats, saying "herp derp moar powerful than x and y time" doesn't qualify for a higher speed level



Oh?



I know how mach numbers work

Yes I am, because the small country size from what I gather is just shitty dialogue contradicted by visuals (again, Kubo's fault)

Bleach isn't even relevant here. Like, at all

Can't believe I'm arguing a HST topic here


Lol I know about the latter.

Actually have you forgotten the part where Ichigo ran and ran and ran to get to LN but it didn't get any smaller.

Anyway, you can't really use what Kubo draws to scale how large something is, since he's so inconsistent.
Bunch of dudes on Comic vine claim Bleach is the fastest, depending on how you view that forum take it or leave it.

Hey, did you know the Databook for Bleach says that SS arc Bankai Ichigo was lighting speed? Though I don't really believe in Databooks

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With bleach you either use Kubo's statements to tell how large something is, or you use his drawings. I don't really go by the latter, since he seems to intend for something to be xx amount large, but only draws it c amount large.

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I don't think any forum is really credible, since each one has either, downplaying, or overplaying. Every forum has it, at least the one's I know of.
Neme comes to mind with his Lotr downplaying, and the fact that he can't seem to read quotes properly.

Well anyway. Ancalagon takes Bleack and Op down, and Melkor takes DB down, then the two together take down Naruto, does this make you more happy?

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By the way. Whitebeard Tilted An Island and a decent portion of the sea around it

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Bankai Ichigo was blitzed by Grimmjow the Sixth Espada. Then he later on was able to fight almost on equal grounds with Grimm, but was slightly stronger. Ichigo then was blitzed by the Fourth Espada Ulquiorra. Then Ichigo became stronger again, but then got blitzed by R1 Ulquiorra. Ichigo and Kenpachi were blitzed by Starrk before this.
He was so utterly blitzed by R2 Ulquiorra that it go's beyond the word blitz. He then got blitzed by Aizen, when he yet again gained a new power-up, and Aizen's blitz made the other one's look like child's play (Besides Starrk's.)
Then during his training for the FGT, he fought a stronger H2 version of his hallow, who was fused with Bankai old man 'Zangestu' and was mostly being blitzed, but then was soon able to keep up somewhat.
Then he kept up with an Aizen (If not totally destroyed Aizen in all areas of power) who had previously destroyed Kisuke Urahara, Yoruichi Shihouin, and Isshin Kurosaki in a lower from of his evolution. (Note they were all in Shikai)

Base Aizen blitzed Shunsui, Soi Fon, and everyone else. Shunsui is faster then the Ichigo that got blitzed by Starrk.

Sorry, but no matter how you put it, Bleach got faster after the SS arc.

And this is really only going by Ichigo's speed in a sense, everyone else got faster.

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Okay how about you start proving me wrong? Like putting down actual facts. Since so far you have put down nothing to disapprove what I put down.

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