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Originally posted by Bardock42
They often go hand in hand.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
He killed her with "a heavy heart".

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[...]Melisandre was robed all in scarlet satin and blood velvet, her eyes as red as the great ruby that glistened at her throat as if it too were afire. "In ancient books of Asshai it is written that there will come a day after a long summer when the stars bleed and the cold breath of darkness falls heavy on the world. In this dread hour a warrior shall draw from the fire a burning sword. And that sword shall be Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes, and he who clasps it shall be Azor Ahai come again, and the darkness shall flee before him." She lifted her voice, so it carried out over the gathered host. "Azor Ahai, beloved of R'hllor! The Warrior of Light, the Son of Fire! Come forth, your sword awaits you! Come forth and take it into your hand!"

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Do you know the tale of the forging of Lightbringer? I shall tell it to you. It was a time when darkness lay heavy on the world. To oppose it, the hero must have a hero's blade, oh, like none that had ever been. And so for thirty days and thirty nights Azor Ahai labored sleepless in the temple, forging a blade in the sacred fires. Heat and hammer and fold, heat and hammer and fold, oh, yes, until the sword was done. Yet when he plunged it into water to temper the steel it burst asunder.

"Being a hero, it was not for him to shrug and go in search of excellent grapes such as these, so again he began. The second time it took him fifty days and fifty nights, and this sword seemed even finer than the first. Azor Ahai captured a lion, to temper the blade by plunging it through the beast's red heart, but once more the steel shattered and split. Great was his woe and great was his sorrow then, for he knew what he must do.

"A hundred days and a hundred nights he labored on the third blade, and as it glowed white-hot in the sacred fires, he summoned his wife. ‘Nissa Nissa' he said to her, for that was her name, ‘bare your breast, and know that I love you best of all that is in this world.' She did this thing, why I cannot say, and Azor Ahai thrust the smoking sword through her living heart. It is said that her cry of anguish and ecstasy left a crack across the face of the moon, but her blood and her soul and her strength and her courage all went into the steel. Such is the tale of the forging of Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes.

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Originally posted by Robtard
On a side note, there should be a decent level of butthurt from the non book readers after Tywin dies while taking a shit.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
Man I can't wait until the former happens.

I'm drooling all over my boner in wait.

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Originally posted by focus4chumps
he had better shit when he dies. i need to see that bastard brought low. also that smile at his funeral.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Will be upsetting if there are no juicy sound effects, or if they do away completely with him sitting on the everyman's throne when he dies.

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Originally posted by Bardock42
That's not so much a point why you disagree, but a repetition of your feelings of disagreement, but fair enough, I mean I find the arguments brought by the others in the thread here immensely compelling, and yours strenuous at best, but we don't have to agree on everything, we can still get married.

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Originally posted by Robtard
It would have been more than she currently had, which was working for a living and getting the odd gift from Tyrion after she sucked on his cock, no? It also would have meant she was safe from his father's wrath of: "next whore I'll hang". (why imo, she might have been a spy from the start in the show)

If show Shae just wanted more money, she probably could have asked and Tyrion would have provided, since he's in love with her.

Disagree, obviously, show Shae seems like actual affection/love up to the point of her dismissal. Guess we'll have to see how it plays out.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Tywin dying on the shitter is the perfect way for him to go and the only reason to change that is either hack writing or the show being unjustly in love with him. Which might be the case with them significantly lessening his doucheiness and making him more awesome.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Which I still don't buy into. No matter how many cool thing he does or how great Dance is as an actor, I still think Tywin's suuuch a dick. F*ck that guy.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh god no. My father is a hippie who hasn't worked in 20 years. He's Tywin's opposite.