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Khan Noonien Singh vs. Palpatine
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We see Dooku lift Obi and move him. I already referenced that. It is clearly less concussive since its slower.


We see Obi survive, as does Grievous. Etc. Quit acting like it kills when it obviously doesn't. laughing out loud

Glad to hear you concede. Khan uses long ranged weapons far faster than Palpatine. He is also a much better hand to hand fighter minus any weapons than Palpatine has shown.


He can block some blaster fire but not dodge. He has never done so and Khan's weaponry is far faster and more powerful than blaster fire from star wars.

Based on what ? When has he done so ?

If you aren't familiar with Into Darkness why post in this thread ?



Sometimes you're one of, if not the biggest tool on this site. Obi was KO"d by that throw.. You act like he was fresh as a daisy afterwards.. he wasn't. That TK throw removed him from the fight completely. We've seen force users send people flying and then try and drop things on top of them... Sidious could do the same to Khan... toss him once and then drop a wall on top of him. We've seen the sith do this and Khan would have zero answer for it. Which is why this fight is a stomp.

You also have no clue about the Star Wars universe which is part of the issue here... Luke wasn't just fine after Sids lighting attack... He was badly hurt and suffered the effects even years later from the exposure to lighting. He wasn't just fine by any means.

The facts are these and there is no getting around it... Palps has way more ways to win than Khan. Khan only has one way to win and that is to land a lucky shot somehow on Sids and kill him. Sids has many more ways to wins this fight, which is why it's laughable to see you tout Khan so much. He is much more likely to lose than win... could he win.. not likely but maybe. However sids winning is probable.. khan winning is possible. Huge difference

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You can't prove it so dismissed like the coward you are known to be.


Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain


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Sometimes you're one of, if not the biggest tool on this site. Obi was KO"d by that throw.. You act like he was fresh as a daisy afterwards.. he wasn't. That TK throw removed him from the fight completely. We've seen force users send people flying and then try and drop things on top of them... Sidious could do the same to Khan... toss him once and then drop a wall on top of him. We've seen the sith do this and Khan would have zero answer for it. Which is why this fight is a stomp.

You also have no clue about the Star Wars universe which is part of the issue here... Luke wasn't just fine after Sids lighting attack... He was badly hurt and suffered the effects even years later from the exposure to lighting. He wasn't just fine by any means.

The facts are these and there is no getting around it... Palps has way more ways to win than Khan. Khan only has one way to win and that is to land a lucky shot somehow on Sids and kill him. Sids has many more ways to wins this fight, which is why it's laughable to see you tout Khan so much. He is much more likely to lose than win... could he win.. not likely but maybe. However sids winning is probable.. khan winning is possible. Huge difference


He knows that Khan loses, he's just trolling.

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Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain
Prove it.


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Sometimes you're one of, if not the biggest tool on this site. Obi was KO"d by that throw.. You act like he was fresh as a daisy afterwards.. he wasn't. That TK throw removed him from the fight completely. We've seen force users send people flying and then try and drop things on top of them... Sidious could do the same to Khan... toss him once and then drop a wall on top of him. We've seen the sith do this and Khan would have zero answer for it. Which is why this fight is a stomp.

You also have no clue about the Star Wars universe which is part of the issue here... Luke wasn't just fine after Sids lighting attack... He was badly hurt and suffered the effects even years later from the exposure to lighting. He wasn't just fine by any means.

The facts are these and there is no getting around it... Palps has way more ways to win than Khan. Khan only has one way to win and that is to land a lucky shot somehow on Sids and kill him. Sids has many more ways to wins this fight, which is why it's laughable to see you tout Khan so much. He is much more likely to lose than win... could he win.. not likely but maybe. However sids winning is probable.. khan winning is possible. Huge difference
Obi was not ko'd, liar. He was pushed over the edge and was clinging to his life. This is a featureless environment. Read the op, noob.

That isn't canon so please stick to the rules. He was fine right after Vader hurled the geriatric to his doom. Luke was fine and fresh as a daisy. Weak force lightning.

Khan's accuracy speaks for itself so calling it luck shows you don't know what the word luck means. Palpatine has never shown the skill or the power of the saber to deflect or block something as powerful as the Boolean gun.

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Prove it.


Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain


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No, you debate more off of choice, rather than any sort of imaginative power. Based on your current logic, the Phase Cannon can't kill a human being, because it never has done so onscreen. You do of course realise how stupid that is.



We see Palpatine throw Senate pods with little effort multiple times. Why could he not apply that same force to a human body repeatedly, or from multiple directions? For the same reason the Phase Cannon never killed a human?

So. In essence, we can easily say that the Boolean Gun as you have now taken to call it, is useless against human beings, or anyone other than Klingons and their transports. Is that about the shape of it?



Except Kal has got better durability feats, the weapon system of the Kryptonian Ship is unquantifiable, and you have no basis to put Khan's gun above anything, because the kryptonian weapon was never fired on anything else to get an accurate comparative. And besides, that still does not put it above HV, which is the point I made.

It's not backseat modding if you actually break the rules, kid. Or would you preffer I do hit the report button? Geez man, which is it?
I already explained myself. I never said Palpatine can't kill someone he hasn't killed before only that you can't apply the scope of the force to match something you dreamed up. You can't overturn actual evidence. Force push can drive those back but it's never broken bones so assuming it does here is without merit or proof on top of ignoring Khan's superior anatomy.


For the same reason Yoda didn't break Palpatine's body. Sure the force stopped the pod and hurled it. His force didn't crush the pod nor did it crush Palpatine's body. Yoda was there to kill him and yet he didn't even ko a geriatric with a force push.
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I never once said so. By your logic Palaptine can't kill Khan since he has never taken on someone with his DNA. Quit being dense and not understanding a simple argument.


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Cry on someone else's time. I don't respect you and just kinda laugh when you do your hall monitor thing.

Khan wins.

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Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain
You can't prove force pushes break bones just by the sheer force alone. Quit making things up.


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You can't prove force pushes break bones just by the sheer force alone. Quit making things up.


Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain


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[QUOTE=14773304]Originally posted by StealthRanger
Good for Dooku. Although that goes to show that force users are capable of TKing eachother
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It shows that the platform did so when it hit him. I never said the environment doesn't impact someone when they are hit. I said the force push alone doesn't break bones. Pay attention.

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Grievous is strong enough to punch dents in his own starship and break transparisteel just by throwing a spear into it and he can tank blaster bolts

Again force users are just durable
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But weak enough to die when blasted in the right area. Palpatine isn't very durable. Obi isn't very durable. They all die when blasted so pretending they are more durable based off of nothing is speculation with no evidence to support it.


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Palpatine deflects blaster bolts that are at least in the hypersonic range. Khan's not even half the speed of sound



Movement is movement, if he can move his arms to block he can move his body to, oh gee, I don't know, dodge I guess. Stop being pedantic

Though if you want to be pedantic about it, Mace Windu was able to leap away from Jango's flamethrower
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He doesn't block any blaster fire in the live action films nor is it proven what speed the fire moves at.

Moving your hands to block something isn't the same as dodging or moving your entire body. What is easier ? Moving your hands at something traveling at you while fired or moving your entire body out of the way. Your ignorance is something.


Mace was burned in the process so he didn't avoid it altogether and a flame thrower is a lot slower than blaster fire.

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If weaker force users can TK humans, something far lighter than a blaster would be trivial. Not that hard to figure out



Not going to post or even note feats when asked why debate the thread with others? [/B]
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What is far lighter than a blaster ? Are you making up feats again.

I already have done so many times. Your ignorance sickens me.


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Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain
Baseless claim.


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Baseless claim.


Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain


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Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain
You are stuck in a relative loop and this is why no one takes you seriously as a debater. Khan wins as evidenced already.


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You are stuck in a relative loop and this is why no one takes you seriously as a debater. Khan wins as evidenced already.


Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain


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Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain
Continue to spam with the same response while I debate. Kids lash out in the same regard because they lack the intelligence to do so in a constructive manner.


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Continue to spam with the same response while I debate. Kids lash out in the same regard because they lack the intelligence to do so in a constructive manner.


"irony"

Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain


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The Emperor pulls Khan into his saber. The end.

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"irony"

Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain
I have debates using evidence you haven't. So I will use the word irony as it applies to you.


Khan wins. You make baseless claims.


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I have debates using evidence you haven't. So I will use the word irony as it applies to you.


Khan wins. You make baseless claims.


"irony"

Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain


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"irony"

Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain
You have no evidence. You are a dog with no bite. I'm all bite. Khan wins.


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