Synthesised serum, not Khan's blood straight up. I'm still right, Khan doesn't regenerate battle damage at any appreciable level.
That is retarded Quan. Under that mentality, I can say that all of Voldemort's victims from the first Wizarding War are figments of everyone's imagination. His first rule of the Wizarding world... Everything that happened offscreen, because book explanations don't count, as in your mind they are "feats". I don't even think you know the meaning of that word anymore.
So no. Book information does not equate to feats. You are dead wrong on that.
Kirk beat Khan with a cheap shot and a weapon. Up until that point, he was losing.
You claim the Boolean gun would somehow intercept a man who moves at multi-mach speed, has tanked far worse, and punches with several tonnes of force onscreen.
No, I only disregard the ones that are legit plot holes that don't make sense. If you can explain, in-universe why these descrepencies are there, then fine and dandy. In the end, it changes absolutely nothing though.
You showed her running from combat from featless clones. It was awful. I have a clip of Khan decimating a squad of Klingons with relative ease. Khan wins.
He needed Khan's blood because it already brought that creature back. 8 stun blasts, etc. you're wrong.
If it's mentioned on film it occurred but we lack the proper context. Movie versions only. This isn't rocket science. Movie feats only. If you want them all its foreign vs. mods have spoken on this.
He was holding his own in a shoving match. He still bested him. This Khan wasn't even phased. G Kirk and later easily took him out with relative ease.
Far slower things have caught him. This laser shot at him sure hit him. Evidence.
It made sense but it isn't up to the viewer to decide what your brain can't accept. All movie facts count.
The stun blasts specifically don't do cellular damage. Hell a regular human woman was able to keep going after a 24th century stun blast, and a lethal one on the follow up in NG. Riker had to vaporise her in the end with a 3rd attack to stop her advancing. Does that make the woman legit superhuman?
You are getting the context and meaning of the words entirely wrong. Report me, or contact Impediment if you think I am breaking the rule. I don't have to take your blanket statement to cover anything but feats.
You gonna claim Khan would have taken a lead pipe to the face from Kirk? Prove it. That's different from punching him. That's like me saying a person who punches you in the face will cause the same damage as the guy who swings a metal bat into your face will cause the same damage.
Yeah, and? Neither the Boolean Gun nor the Kryptonian weapon would do any lasting damage. Lets compare. The BGun shot down a bunch of security dropships. The Kgun shot down some earth planes. Both broke up their targets in relatively similar fasion, basically burnt wrecks. The Kgun did relatively little to Superman, who was completely fine after being stunned for a few seconds. The Bgun, by it's destructive feats, would probably rate the same way, and considering Clarke was still getting stronger as the movie progressed (to the point of plowing through buildings, both on his own, and by the force of Zod's blows) and knocking a satellite from orbit and going through re-entry completely fine, then there's that whole planetary gravity increasing beam he was at the center of, AND escaping a black hole.... Yeah, Bgun aint doing shit to him. Khan aint doing shit to him either.
It only makes sense to you, because I know for a fact you have not watched, not do you like the previous Trek. That makes your opinion biased.
8 stun blasts sure make that point evident to anyone being honest watching that scene.
So you prove you're a fool. Look live in your own world and try to cite books when movie versions mean movie versions only. Just stay on space battles.
We already see Kirk was unable to do anything to him physically unlike the original non super soldier Khan. He was being held in check. Spock didn't even ko him with a metal weapon. This Khan would break the original sissified version.
Superman was done for more than ten seconds. That's a boxing ko. Khan's phaser cannon wrecks him and if he fires multiple shots it's even worse.
The rest is irrelevant and isn't the same as a laser or phaser.
I have seen the pervious trek not like it matters since this movie is canon. Quit ignoring feats, sport.
No, because cellular regeneration doesn't nullify stun blast effect which affects the functionality of neurons, not cells. God, do you really not know the difference?
You really are retarded. Instead of reading the black and white letters and words of the rule, you've gone ahead and tried to turn it into a blanket statement so say "all info from the books are out," not just feats. Rules lawyering 101 backseat mod Quanchi112.
That's not the point. The point is, you think a weapon in hand is the same thing as a bare knuckle punch. And Spock KOed Khan with a friggin uppercut. A bare knuckled uppercut. And he never woke up from it despite his supposed regen.
Sorry? A BOXING KO?! What the f**k? That's your benchmark? Given that we don't know how long the Bgun would even put Superman down for, or even if it WOULD put him down, Superman survived and indeed rallied against worse damage than either gun produced.
The gravity beam and black hole feats especially, but when Zod and Superman's punches do more damage than either weapon, I'm going to call bullcrap on your opinion
No, you formulated an opinion based off of youtube clips. Don't confuse the two. And you don't get to dictate canon.
This post will be me educating you and your childlike intelligence with a link helping teach kids what neurons are. Neurons are a type of cell, kiddo. Cells of the nervous system or neurons. https://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/cells.html
Click on the link and let your shame be complete. It's hard to debate with someone as intellectually challenged as yourself because you had multiple posts to learn what neurons are and you still manage to embarrass yourself. It's like me saying I love fruit and you going on about bananas a specific kind of fruit without knowing they were a kind of fruit.
A child could understand a forum dedicated to films only. There is an exception with the canon series when the mod has made that clear but books are not good unless you go to the all versus. I understand what things mean you get tripped up on what a neuron is. You're a dumb kid,
That isn't the point. The point is Kirk was able to ohysailly match him for a time in a stand still shove off. That's awful since this version of Khan wasn't even fazed by an all out Kirk while he stood there. We see he wasn't beaten by a metal object by a physically superior Spock to Kirk as well.
Khan had his arm broken, survived a crash which would have killed most others, took eight stun blasts, was hit by q metal object in the face, was Vulcan pinched twice, etc. you don't get to ignore the other damage like some dumb kid which you've turned yourself into this entire post. Try to keep up, kiddo.
The gun kept him down for more than ten seconds. No one else attacked him which means he was vulnerable to more attacks.
Different kinds of damage not the same. Quit pretending. It's like saying he survived punches which produce more force than depriving him of oxygen for 10 minutes therefore it doesn't affect him.
No, I have seen the films whereas your ignorance was already highlighted in Star Trek one in which you fled the scene. You were humiliated and left because you're ignorant. The films are canon and this isn't dictated by me its dictated by who makes these films canon.
Click on the trek wiki and they clearly say what is and what isn't canon. Into darkness is canon.
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