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Is Nihilism = Pessimism?

Could someone tell me if they're completely different or not?

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They share a lot of similarities, but I wouldn't say they're the same thing.


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What is the difference?


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There's a correlation, sure, but it depends on the outlook of the individual nihilist. I for one am a rather optimistic and hopeful nihilist.


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I wouldn't say they are similar. Pessimists just expect the worse of a situation. Nihilists believe that there is no inherent universal order, but rather than be gloom, they embrace it as a chance to create their own destinies.


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Could someone tell me if they're completely different or not?


They are different things. A nihilist can be optimistic about lots of things. Nihilism in essence means that you don't believe there is greater meaning to life. Pessimism is a state of mind in which you believe that it is more likely that bad things happen.


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What is the difference?

Nihilism is the belief that there's no purpose to life.

Pessimism is when you see the glass as half empty.

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they embrace it as a chance to create their own destinies.


So, isn't that like a humanist? Or am I wrong?

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The Nihilist: "Life is essentially meaningless."
The Pessimist: "That's not good."
The Optimist: "Then make your own meaning."


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Pessimists are more doubt centered.
A nihilist is more hope oriented.


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It doesn't matter.


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I just tried to find the nihilism website, but all that came up was "Page does not exist".

smile


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Re: Is Nihilism = Pessimism?

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Could someone tell me if they're completely different or not?


If you take warhammer 40 000 which alore spreading a lot of nihilist idea, and thematics.... In the overall.. You think what do you want to think.. You can think like the chaos --> tommmorow will be worst than today so I cannot wait. (I may exgerate a little)where in fact the world islike this and that doesn't really matter to you...Because you are a nihilist, you are just roking when the other are crying if you want.. Or you are like the other..

It your choice to believe than tommorow .

Because their is pessisimism and pessimism.. All nihilist have this pssimism in mind -> don't expect something for the future it won't look good to see...

The second one is : does we care about it? No matter if the world blow up, you will still have a control of emotion, you can still enjoy the future... There is a hope of hapiness nomatter the consequences combined with a crittic spirit... (Being happy without being in a disey world or thinking like a disney character...)

Still pessimism is a step to the nihilism...


To came back to warhammer 40 000 franchise there is joy even in the darkest apest.. Look at grandpa nurgle spacemarin humor..... There is a Dark and dry humor...

In fact, the galaxy slowly dying in the atrocity of war and chaos, is not a reason to stop laughing !

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Edit to be clear... Nihilist are paradoxaly pessimists.. They believe than in stoping to believe in falase hope you can hope some kind hapiness....

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You're words are broken and nonsensical, and your point is skewed and erroneous. Do betterer.


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You're words are broken and nonsensical, and your point is skewed and erroneous. Do betterer.


In some aspect the nihilsm is somekind of non sens... Nihilism is a belive that found itself on stoping to believe.

This is true, but clearly this is not making sens.

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You're not making any sense. English that b*tch up properly.


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Someone explain existential nihilism to me.


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Life and existence is without inherent purpose, and everything is intrinsically worthless. In a nutshell.


But pessimism/optimism is relative, and is better used prior to the word for one's existential attitude. It's like the adjective to nihilism's noun. I for one am optimistically nihilistic--nihilism to me feels like the accurate description to reality's true nature. The two terms aren't fundamentally antonyms or substitutes for one another.


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