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Hopefully, I get casted as the leading male.


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Which begs the questions how could punches from a big robot and non-nuke missiles from a big robot take them down?


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As an alternative to nuclear weaponry, Jaegers were designed to generate as much kinetic energy as tactical ordnance. They were built to match the estimated scale of Kaiju, and minimize damage created by conventional weapon

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I just crossed you off my lists of Pacific Rim 2 premiere guests.


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http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06...d-series-coming

Yes! The first one was amazing! I'm looking forward to this. I thought they would get more creative with the name though. Atlantic Rim would have sufficed.


It may have a subtitle, but they shouldn't change the location IMO, the Pacific gives more varied locations and keeps all the old countries in.


There was also a crappy movie called Atlantis Rim made too.


I'm really looking forward to the more comics and the prequel animation ^^


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Why didn't they just park some Navy destroyers by the entrance and use rail guns or big missles, lol?


At the bottom of the Mariana Trench?

The Kaiju don't have to surface anywhere near the breach itself, and nothing can be stationed down there for long. Not much can go down without being crunched like a tin can at all.

Also, at hundreds of meters per second under water, Kaiju can destroy fleets without getting a scratch in return. That's faster than any torpedo, it'd be suicide to send navies against them. Heck, it even sucked to send Jaegers against them underwater! There's a reason they're always fought near the shore, where the sea is shallower.


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Which begs the questions how could punches from a big robot and non-nuke missiles from a big robot take them down?


The missiles were designed to deliver maximum kinetic impact and used in groups at close range (meaning almost all of the missile was warhead, no need for much propellent).

Punches never actually killed them (except one in the preview comic, but it was a very small one and that was in addition to missiles), but were just used for set-up and to stun them to give room for the finishers.


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Which begs the questions how could punches from a big robot and non-nuke missiles from a big robot take them down?


The punches themselves did not put down the Kaiju and the Jaegers did not have any "non-nuke missiles". They were using energy blasts (powered by a nuclear core) and powerful heated blades.

Also, I geeked out when I saw the British scientist guy playing one of the rogue Night's Watch members of GOT.


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The punches themselves did not put down the Kaiju and the Jaegers did not have any "non-nuke missiles". They were using energy blasts (powered by a nuclear core) and powerful heated blades.

Also, I geeked out when I saw the British scientist guy playing one of the rogue Night's Watch members of GOT.


Striker Eureka used missiles.

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Also, I geeked out when I saw the British scientist guy playing one of the rogue Night's Watch members of GOT.


The guy from Torchwood?

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The guy from Torchwood?


Never watched Who or Torchwood.


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Punches from robots sound too old fashioned , but I like It

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The guy from Torchwood?
Yes.


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Hopefully it has better characters in it.


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Which begs the questions how could punches from a big robot and non-nuke missiles from a big robot take them down?

You clearly haven't been punched in the face by a giant robot.


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Striker Eureka used missiles.


Yep, but very short ranged and designed to deliver high kinetic force deep into the kaiju in a more focused way than a nuke. And multiple in a row to increase the concussive effect.


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Should still have merely a fraction of the concusive force of a nuke at point blank range. Admittedly, I don't give a shit about scientific inaccuracies in a movie about giant monsters fighting giant robots.

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Should still have merely a fraction of the concusive force of a nuke at point blank range.


Not as much as you'd think. Those were probably hundred-ton warheads each, and work on contact, and likely to specifically hit vital areas with at least some of them, while nuclear weapons will never be contact deployed due to their fragility (hit one hard and it turns into a simple dirty bomb). Square-cubed rule means even a little distance can affect the energy density a lot.



According to side material, of the first 3 kaiju, 2 died to a single nuke, one took 3 tactical nukes (Trespasser, which was far bigger than any early one).

The big nuke at point blank did kill the Cat 4 Scunner (who itself is bigger than any killed by Striker's missiles). It failed to kill the Cat 5, but then again Striker's anti-kaiju missiles wouldn't have taken it down in one volley either. Or heck, might've not managed even if it'd gotten off three volleys (the full load).


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And as I said, the Kaiju were pretty much at ground zero of the blast. Well within a hundred feat. At such range the force of a 1.2 megaton bomb is going to be far larger than a few hundred ton missiles.

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And as I said, the Kaiju were pretty much at ground zero of the blast. Well within a hundred feat. At such range the force of a 1.2 megaton bomb is going to be far larger than a few hundred ton missiles.




Sure, but that *did* flat-out kill the Cat 4, certainly with damage to spare.


And it's not just total force that matters, but force that hits specific points. A very direct force to the base of your skull can kill you when far greater total force, just a bit less at any specific point, across your total body won't.


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There are times that sequels do well, and there are those when they do horribly. I can see this one fall on its rear, and am not particularly over enthused about a part 2. I've been wrong before, but I imagine this going the way of one of those giant snake movies.


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I am keen for this film. I enjoyed the first one a lot, despite a few facepalm moments. Like why the bloody hell did it take them so long to figure out that using Gipsy's sword might be a good idea?


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