1. Slade doesn't need eye site to fight as I have proven. His other senses beat blades all except for smell. Slade (thanks to his enhanced senses) will be able to pinpoint blades location in seconds.
2. Lol what? It doesn't matter what slade said about batman being more skilled seeing how he utterly dominates batman in 90% of thier encounters. Statements mean nothing unless the comics back it up. Batman stated that NIGHTWING was his physical superior. But as the comics show thats a load of crap.
3. Slade without his meta abilities has also shown impressive feats. Like surviving a helicopter scratch unharmed then fights a crap ton of operatives and kills them.
4. Losing to the Mob man was do to bad or should I say HORRIBLE writing.
5. Every scan I showed is slade with no prep. Even without prep slade has taken down stronger, faster, and more skilled opponents than blade. A lot of people Blade has defeated would also be defeated by Slade. However, there are only a few people that slade defeated that blade could beat to. Slade simply fights to many powerful people than blade has. Also all those people you listed to stalemate Deathstroke were do to slade being weakend. Slade was hit with a ton of explosives and was glued to the ground when Green arrow stalemated him. The only time Nightwing and Bruce were able to stalemate Slade was when he was weakened. But as I posted a top condition slade moping the floor with these guys.
6. I have already countered all those. Slade has high mind control resistance from more powerful beings. Turning slade into a vampire isn't a very good idea. You'd be fighting an even more powerful version of slade. If blade BFR's he automatically lose since that's self BFR.
7. You also seem to forget that our characters are starting at their best and not weakend forms. You keep posting a weakend Slade getting stalemated but when the truth is a top condition slade has never been beaten or stalemated by them.
8. And as I said Logan had full control over his and Blades fight. Gambit if I remember correctly wiped the floor with him. Deadpool has been owned by Daredevil not TOO long ago. Daredevil has also had trouble with punisher in a fair fight.
9. Blade is one of the most consistent characters in marvel. But that prevents him from fighting people out of his weight class unlike deathstroke.
Consistency < better feats
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Deathstroke vs Batgirl first match. He is unable to even lay one hit on her, but she is able to strike him in he face. She also dodges his gun fire at close range and disarms him.
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Slade has the better healing factor and I posted the scans to prove it. Slade has way better healing factor feats than blade. Hell slade comes back to life if he dies thanks to his healing factor. Blades healing factor (if I'm correct) has never brought blade back to life.
Venom makes Sade slower, less skilled, messes up his senses. Deathstroke off venom would beat himself on venom. But seriously the batkick has hurt Superman don't see where your coming from. Unless your saying slade has supermans durability which is fine by me.
Lol slade less skilled than batman? I have already prove that wrong. 90% of thier encounters has Slade moping the floor with Bruce without breaking a sweat.
Both of those last ones were weakend slades. And the cyborg had sucker kicked slade.
Seriously though your not trying to be consistent bro. Your just straight up lowballing.
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Healing Factor quickly negates an attack from inside his brain meant to kill him(from Chershire). His HF adapted after one attack, and in the words of slade himself "Your little death zap is now an annoying ache"
Although blade is more consistent our characters are at thier very best giving Slade the ultimate advantage.
Slades HF heals external and internal wounds. Lets also not forget that Slade is immune to most diseases and has healed instantly from being poisoned. The vampire disease (if I'm correct) works like the swine flu. If thats the case Slade should be able to heal from it. His HF has shown better feats than Blades so that gives him an advantage.
Slades HF > Blades HF
Durability: Blade has taken descent punishment. However slade constantly gets hit by mid metas, high metas, and low heralds and shakes them off like they were nothing. Blade has no permanent way to beat Deathstroke at his best.
Deathstrokes durability > blades durability
Speed: blade has hit a few speedsters in his day. But Slade has hit tons more. Deathstroke constantly tags speedsters.
Deathstrokes speed > blades speed
Skills/Reflexes: although blade has incredible reflexes slade is able to react faster. Slade is constantly attacked out of nowhere and still manages to dodge almost everything. As in a few scans I showed just by little movement beneath the ground he can already pin point where someone is and/or if theres going to be an attack. Slade also constantly predicts everyones moves in a fught. He already knows exactly what you are going to do before you even do it. Giving him more skill and better reflexes.
Slades skills and reflexes > blades skills and reflexes
Strength: slade has constantly overpowered people that are 20x stronger than blade. Slade constantly overpowers high end strength people while slade does not.
Slades strength > blades strength
Precision: now both of these guys are extremely accurate. Before slades enhancements he was already a big game hunter and was killing elephants, rhinos, and much more in one shot. Slade was also able to snipe a cigarette out of someone's mouth while being over 700 Meters away.
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i suppose i could judge if needed. i think the links were wolf's. i didn't open every scan but there were a few that i opened randomly and they were broken..... when's this supposed to be done? and apologies for the interruption, i likely shouldn't be posting here...
This will be over Tuesday night. Judges will make their decision with the reasons behind it in this thread on Wednesday or shortly thereafter. Its all good man your posts were simply informative.
No our character are at their average and normal levels. Also with some of Slade's high end feats like knee capping kid flash there was outside influence. In that instance Jericho had taken over his body and was controlling him.
Also while fighting Lex in battle armour, Slade was being mind controlled by black lantern energy.
Slade's ability to hit speedforce users is PIS first and foremost. Secondly its b/c of the predictable pattern movement of the Flashes as explained by Slade before, not b/c he has speed anywhere close to them.
And I have already proven that Slade can be hit and his attacks dodged by street levelers.
However, Blade w/o superhuman stats in the beginning was killing and hunting vampires who all possess super human speed, reflexes, coordination, and balance.
Look at how Dracula is tossing around Colossus and Wolverine. And Dracula is someone Blade has beaten and stalemated numerous times.
Also its very cool how Eric Brooks got his nickname, by being blindfolded and catching two blades from a skilled vampire hunter in close range early in his career.
Final analysis---While these two are very close in stats and abilities, the environment heavily favors Blade who can clearly see in the dark and smells his opponent's blood. Therefore, the environment advantage for Blade will ultimately lead to his victory.
Slade has taken hits from the likes of Wonderwoman, superboy, wondergirl and many others who are leagues above slade in strength. Slade HF also can counter instant kill tactics.
Healing Factor quickly negates an attack from inside his brain meant to kill him(from Chershire). His HF adapted after one attack, and in the words of slade himself "Your little death zap is now an annoying ache"
I have already proved Slade has high mind resistance feats from far more powerful people like Jericho.
As I have shown slade does not need eyesight to fight. Also, most warehouses have lights inside of them so being in the dark isn't helping. Slade is able to reads ones attack. So he'll know when Blade will strike before he will strike.
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ok, so i was pretty impressed by this match tbh. wasn't sure what i would get but overall well done by both.
i think both did a good job showcasing basic stats. based on what i saw (and only going by these specific showings) i'd say it went something like this:
strength: blade
speed: blade
skill: slade
durability/healing: wash
intelligence/tactics: slade
senses/body reading: wash
BF: no advantage gained by either
really, this is about as close as it can get and this match up is one that has certainly never been conclusively decided in any forum debates.
i don't think any of the basic stats are so far apart as to create a large advantage for either. the differences are too minimal to use stats to decide this imo. biggest difference is likely brains to slade and i would have liked to have seen more emphasis there. could have really helped when everything else was so close.
trump cards for blade wouldn't mean much imo. hypnosis on slade? not imo. vamp blood? maybe, but not entirely sure what it would accomplish or even if the change would HELP blade. turning into a bat would likely get blade killed as his ability to defend and dodge a sword stroke would be lessened and a slash would be far more damaging.
no, to me this came down to simply who presented the stronger case. i get why wolf was talking a bit about lowballing, but showing SOME weaknesses is part of the game and i don't think it was untoward to do so here. wolf should have done some of that himself. i also think wolf didn't place near enough emphasis on what i thought may be his biggest advantage--the powers of slade's ranged weapons. i would really have liked to have seen a lot more proof of his ranged abilities. once it gets in close it really could go either way imo. range would have been slade's best bet and displays of his staff's power (emphasis on it) would have gone a long way.
in general, i think supermutant did a better job in this match of highlighting some of slades's inconsistencies. i think he too could have focused more on blade's offense and his own ranged options, but he at least supplied a more offensive gameplan. in these matches it's not enough to simply show feats, you need to explain how they will translate to a win in this SPECIFIC match, not against characters 'in general'.
to that end i give supermutant the win in a very close and well contested match. well done staying civil, both of you, and thanks for an entertaining read.
I'll get to this soon. I've been in the mountains with no cellular coverage for a few days on work training. Will read through and have a judgement my tomorrow
I think the stats debate is almost moot. Both seem pretty close across the board with speed, strength, durability, healing, skills, etc. I didn't get anything from the back and forth of who's stronger, faster, more agile, skilled.
I'm trying to disregard what I personally know about the characters in favor of what's been shown in this match. This is a very close match.
Well, I've been going back and forth with this match for 20 minutes. So I'm going to draw on things that weren't brought up. I saw nothing about Blade's standard gear. I know it can be nebulous since every scenario involves different gear. But Blade, imo, has a larger arsenal of weapons which could be considered standard. I was looking for an ace in the hole with some of his crazy weapons.
One of Slade's main attributes is his increased mental capacity. I saw only 1 blurb about it and it didn't even begin to showcase what Slade's mind is capable of in combat.
It comes down to this for me: Werewolf at least touched on Slade's increased mental capacity. So my vote is for Werewolf/Slade.
Very close match and tough to judge. Blade and Slade are very close in most physical aspects. Instead of trying to prove who's more stronger, faster, more agile, skilled, better healing factor for several posts, try to work on what your character brings to the fight that the other doesn't.
Great match guys. I enjoyed reading your posts but hated judging such a close debate.
Hi guy's sorry about holding things up.
I agree with Baddabing this was a super close match. I found it a little too much like a respect thread than an actual battle.
Ironically while super close I'm going with Supermutant for the exact opposite reason badda went with werewolf. For me the enhanced intellect is the key differentiator between these two characters. Slade ability to process information is what wins him battles he has NO right having a chance in otherwise. To fail to drive home this advantage IMO is an oversight that can't be ignored.
Super mutant gets my vote by the skin of his teeth. I do believe they are. Bars gets matched in stats and in a true battle Slade would take the slight majority but wasn't sold that by the arguments made.
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