Even just from drawing on Vitiate's power an Imperial Guard was able to negate Revan's TK and Revan's TK is very good. So I see Vitiate's defense as being very impressive. And even weakened, wounded and exhausted Vitiate was able to collapse the Dark Temple. So I also don't see a full strength Vitiate as being terribly far from Nihilus in TK. While I agree Nihilus currently is superior in that area, I don't think he'll be ragdolling Vitiate or reducing him to a smear.
Vitiate also has aspects in which he is superior, like lightning, sorcery and telepathy.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Vitiate is far more knowledgeable about the Dark Side and wields a far greater mastery over the force. Vititate's destruction of Nathema is of a greater magnitude than Nihilus' feat on Katarr. Vitiate is undoubtedly the superior Sith Lord.
But none of that matters. Nihilus' raw power is enough to stop Vitiate. Nihilus' monstrous force drain (to the best of my knowledge) requires little preparation. His TK is impressive and his saber skills are underrated. After being severely weakened, he still managed to almost overwhelm the Exile, Visas Marr, and Canderous in a duel.
I'll quote the hyperbole that was used in the Revenge of the Sith novel.
Instead of talking about Dooku's saber skills, imagine the quote talking about Vitiate's knowledge of the force.
Vitiate could definitely beat Nihilus, but in a straight-up fight, Nihilus would win more often than not.
Also, up to his time Vitiate is canonically the most powerful avatar of the Dark Side, moreso than Darth Nihilus.
Darth Nihilus really needs to have new material to change his horrendous handling in KOTOR--I thought how he appeared in Legacy was really cool, even though it contrasted with his other appearances.
Vitiate is corporeally immortal, Force Drain cannot undo this. Emperor Vitiate continuously siphoned energies of some of his immortal servants and they didn't perish, those servants felt weakened but did not perish because of immortality.
Vitiate is master of Force Drain as well, he can give Nihilus a taste of his own medicine in this respect. If Nihilus gets drained, I am sure he would not last long.
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I keep seeing this claim of Nihilus ripping ship out of Malachor. First, is there actual proof that he used TK or it's just one of those rumored vague feats? The ship's engine was working including hyperspace travel, why would he used TK at all?
Also, where would he get so much Force power available? I thought he was hungry, a few non-sensitives he fed off shouldn't be enough at all.
You have no proof of the first statement. Nothing ever suggests that Vitiate was trying to kill anyone he was draining off of besides Nathema. Second, Force Drain does not work on Force Wounds, it rebounds back to the one started the drain.
Actually, it wasn't. They blew it up to prevent it from crashing into the Citadel Space Station.
Sith Emperor is a master of Force Drain talents. He transformed some of his minions in to immortal beings so he could siphon energies from them virtually endlessly and they would not perish.
Corporeal immortality is a product of sorcery, it is such a powerful transformation that it guarantees survival against Force Drain talents.
After trapping Revan, Emperor began to drain him as well. Revan survived by draining energy from Force ghost of Surik in turn. Otherwise, Revan would have perished.
The ship would have crashed after loss of crew.
However, if Nihilus was really holding the ship together, shouldn't it have disintegrated after his fall?
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Vitiate transformed some of his minions in to immortal beings so he could endlessly drained them to fuel his power. Those minions felt weak continuously due being drained but they didn't die because of immortality. Such cruelty.
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He wasn't trying to kill Revan. The only time he has actively tried to kill anyone with Drain is Nathema. It also doesn't guarantee survival against anything except natural death. As Nihilus Drain is designed to take away the Force not life, the point is irrelevant.
The crew that is flying it is still there. And as the ship starts to blow up as soon as Nihilus is dead, but is not destroyed unless the bombs are in place, I'll assume he was holding it together.
See the above. As soon as he dies, it starts to fall apart, but to think that he held every atom together is kind of crazy.
Jul 14th, 2014 11:29 PM
