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Hulk is stronger but Thor is more powerful.

Hulk will need alien armour and weapons to go toe to toe with Thor, which will prove regular Hulk was never his equal. I'm calling it.
Hulk already went toe to toe while Thor needed armor. laughing out loud

You are ignoring their fight and Hulk's portrayal. Hulk might get some armor but he clearly doesn't even need a damn shirt. Come on man. You say some stupid shit.

Hulk is the powerhouse of the team. Thor isn't. Anyone with common sense can decide this watching the first two avengers films.


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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Hulk is stronger but Thor is more powerful.

Hulk will need alien armour and weapons to go toe to toe with Thor, which will prove regular Hulk was never his equal. I'm calling it.


Some people here (one person, really) can't separate physical strength with overall power and they just focus on strength as the end-all in how powerful a character is. "*Character* can punch harder so he wins!"

eg like an idiot arguing that Colossus is a more powerful character than Magneto because Colossus has more physical strength in his body, while ignoring all other factors.


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Hulk already went toe to toe while Thor needed armor. laughing out loud

You are ignoring their fight and Hulk's portrayal. Hulk might get some armor but he clearly doesn't even need a damn shirt. Come on man. You say some stupid shit.


Once again: he *physically* went toe to toe with Thor. Thor didn't actually use any of his other powers like flight or lightning or weather manipulation.

Thor is more useful in a fight, he at least has other options if pure force won't get the job done.


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Another ignorant reply. When talking about someone who is the powerhouse of a sports team you're referring to someone of great physical strength. You aren't saying well arm strath wise that guy can't throw further than the QB so therefore the QB is the most powerful when it comes to throwing the ball. You're clearly ignoring the common sense inference from the word.

Hulk is the physical specimen who can't take more punishment and is the brute force aka powerhouse of the team. It's all about the word powerhouse and how the word is clearly used. I supported my claims with an independent site confirming Hulk was the powerhouse already. Robtard and other posters cheerleading because they are emotional over anything I say or do doesn't refute my clear and obvious point.


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Once again: he *physically* went toe to toe with Thor. Thor didn't actually use any of his other powers like flight or lightning or weather manipulation.

Thor is more useful in a fight, he at least has other options if pure force won't get the job done.
We aren't talking about versatility here. Try to stay on point and focus on the word powerhouse. I couldn't care less for your perceptions of what should have happened. We go by what we see not what you think. Thor is more versatile but I never claimed otherwise. Hulk is the clear powerhouse of the team. smile


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You quite clearly speak in a manner which suggests you feel Hulk is just more or less the most powerful character on the team.


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You quite clearly speak in a manner which suggests you feel Hulk is just more or less the most powerful character on the team.
Do you think Thor is the powerhouse of the team ?


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Do you think Thor is the powerhouse of the team ?


First of all your question suggests that there is only one way you could define what it means to be a powerhouse and that it always means pure brute strength.

Yet from dictionary.com:

"a person, group, team, or the like, having great energy, strength, or potential for success."

You mentioned sports and I'd definitely say Michael Jordan was the powerhouse of The Bulls and yet that doesn't mean I'm saying he was just physically the strongest person on the team. That is saying he is the most skilled.

In regards to talking about a superhero team it's quite easy to see how one could take "powerhouse" to mean "most powerful person overall".

You also say we weren't talking about versatility, but we also weren't talking about who the true powerhouse of the team is. That is something you just randomly mentioned. You said he was the powerhouse and others pointed out he's the strongest physically, but not necessarily overall. The thing is..pointing that out is no more or less valid than pointing out Hulk is the team powerhouse.

Now if you want to say you are just strictly talking about physical power and nothing more than no Thor is not the powerhouse.


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Yet from dictionary.com:

"a person, group, team, or the like, having great energy, strength, or potential for success."

You mentioned sports and I'd definitely say Michael Jordan was the powerhouse of The Bulls and yet that doesn't mean I'm saying he was just physically the strongest person on the team. That is saying he is the most skilled.


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First of all your question suggests that there is only one way you could define what it means to be a powerhouse and that it always means pure brute strength.

Yet from dictionary.com:

"a person, group, team, or the like, having great energy, strength, or potential for success."

You mentioned sports and I'd definitely say Michael Jordan was the powerhouse of The Bulls and yet that doesn't mean I'm saying he was just physically the strongest person on the team. That is saying he is the most skilled.

In regards to talking about a superhero team it's quite easy to see how one could take "powerhouse" to mean "most powerful person overall".

You also say we weren't talking about versatility, but we also weren't talking about who the true powerhouse of the team is. That is something you just randomly mentioned. You said he was the powerhouse and others pointed out he's the strongest physically, but not necessarily overall. The thing is..pointing that out is no more or less valid than pointing out Hulk is the team powerhouse.

Now if you want to say you are just strictly talking about physical power and nothing more than no Thor is not the powerhouse.
Jordan was the best ever he wasn't the strongest on the team literally. You are ignoring your own definition of the word to try to twist the clear meaning of it. In this long rant you didn't answer the question. Do you think Thor is the powerhouse ?

You all accept Hulk is stronger so you have all conceded that point. Based off what evidence is Thor more powerful than cinematic movie Hulk's strength ?


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Lol, you reamed him out.
Another cheerleading post which clearly shows you can't refute my points by yourself. He also didn't even answer a simple question. Let's see if you will. Do you believe Hulk is the powerhouse which I have personally attested to or do you think D. Thor is correct ? It's ok to try to think for yourself you can't always hide behind other men.


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laughing out loud


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It will be between Thor and Strange for title of most powerful Avenger in the coming films.

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It will be between Thor and Strange for title of most powerful Avenger in the coming films.


I'm banking on Strange to bring the heat with the limitless possibilities of magic (or a universal force angle).


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A lot of tears coming in November.

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I am preparing to drink them to the 'laughter of thirsting gods.'


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It will be between Thor and Strange for title of most powerful Avenger in the coming films.
Strange is another matter altogether but the point is for the first Avengers film that Hulk is the powerhouse of the team. I will be proven right once again.

Benedict is definitely going to bring the heat. He's an amazing actor to boot.


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Jordan was the best ever he wasn't the strongest on the team literally. You are ignoring your own definition of the word to try to twist the clear meaning of it. In this long rant you didn't answer the question. Do you think Thor is the powerhouse ?

You all accept Hulk is stronger so you have all conceded that point. Based off what evidence is Thor more powerful than cinematic movie Hulk's strength ?


Okay I actually did answer the question. I said he wasn't the powerhouse, at least according to the way you define it.

Anyways, this isn't "my own" definition. I didn't write the dictionary. What words were twisted? Strength, energy, chance of success. That right there suggests different criteria for what the word can mean. So please explain how I twisted it.

You're also asking things that don't even make sense. How is Thor more powerful than Hulks strength? So are we indeed talking about more than just physical strength or not? Were you indeed asking me how someone who has some pretty high end strength, but also can fly, manipulate the weather, etc. is more useful than someone who can just punch stuff?

Plus don't forget the most important difference: Thor is in complete control of himself. Hulk is not.


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Okay I actually did answer the question. I said he wasn't a powerhouse, at least according to the way you define it.

Anyways, this isn't "my own" definition. I didn't write the dictionary. What words were twisted? Strength, energy, chance of success. That right there suggests different criteria for what the word can mean. So please explain how I twisted it.
You are twisting the definition into the nba realm while ignoring the clear implication of what it means in reference to the powerhouse of the avengers.

a person or thing of great energy, strength, or power.

Screen rant agreed with me Hulk is the powerhouse. You can pretend when we are referring to the powerhouse of the team they aren't referring to the heavy hitter or the brute but you're just being asinine.

Also you seemed to imply Thor's power is greater than Hulk's strength. What is this based on ?


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