Ironically, I made a thread regarding the Keene, NH Pumpkin Fest Riots and it was essentially written off as kids being dumb and only received 8 replies. There wasn't any kind of socio-economic or cultural examination stated as a cause. Make of that what you will. I know what I do.
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I have confronted him previously. I don't think I disagree with him currently however, additionally, I don't think that he means what you think he means.
I have no quarrel with Bardock or Robtard. The only place we're not in alignment is on whether the Wilson shooting was lawful (not wrong, as I feel Brown should be alive, but criminal) and the accountability of my community. I think all three of us stand for social justice.
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btw, Delph, I don't think we even disagree on accountability in the black community. I just think it is not my place to judge this, and more so I don't think it is fair or right for white people to use these issues (whether perceived or real) to deflect any fault and accountability from white culture and our communities, which I view as a much more severe problem.
You live in a country that is over German 91.5%, Turkish 2.4%, other 6.1% (made up largely of Greek, Italian, Polish, Russian, Serbo-Croatian, Spanish.
How the hell do you have any clue on whats going on with Racial Issues in America? Anyone here that agree's with anything you say is just as out of touch with reality as you are.
And don't say our community's, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Dadude, because I don't want to get into a huge back and forth brodown with you, I'll just address one thing from the discussion.
Regarding passing, literature (and I think literature is as good as historical research where assessing past culture and social norms are concerned) from the first half of the 20th century time and time again show that a light skinned black person who passed off as Mexican, Italian, or Native American was treated much better than their black peers by white society.
Whatever hostility they might have faced, an Italian was much more likely than a black person to be allowed to enter a white store or marry a white woman. If Italians were truly treated worse than black people as you claim (the evidence you presented doesn't support that assertion; at best it suggests that about 100 years ago Italians were treated as badly as blacks in certain ways--I've actually read one of the articles you presented, and that same article admits that Italians were conferred many more privileges than blacks during the same time period), then there wouldn't be this phenomenon of 'passing.' Very few blacks were light enough to pass for Anglo White, but there were quite a few light enough to pass for Hispanic or Italian, and many did.
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“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
Citation needed. What's that? dadudemon is not a citation troll and will actually find a link to corroborates what people are talking about?
Behold, a single example of an atrocity that was race driven, involved community destruction, it was in America, and this occured within the last 100 years:
I don't think we disagree. Italians eventually overcame that stigma (the Southern ones that constituted a majority of the hostility: the ones that could not pass as "white" until they were partially accepted by the white communities). By the way, anti-Italian racism still exists in some parts of the US. It has not gone away, completely. It is not just a handful of individuals here and there that hold these ideas: it is still a very large portion of the population that does not like Italians. It is by no means as bad as it is STILL towards the black community, which is what you and I agree on.
I think Jersey Shore and Growing Up Gotti have done a lot of hurt on the Italian community.
I'll admit, when you say "Italian American" the first images that pop to my head are restauranteur followed by douchebag guido followed by mobster. There aren't many black rolemodels in the media, but there are even fewer good Italian American rolemodels.
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“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
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Those are not quite the demographic statistics of Germany, but at any rate it is of no matter. I have lived in the United States and in the United Kingdom, and I am very interested in social justice as well as racial politics and identity around the world, and have therefore read a lot regarding that topic (whether professional or personal writing) as well as given it a fair amount of thought.
Your continued attempts to discredit me due to my nationality are silly, and betray a lack of valid arguments.
I've discredited you because you lack of knowledge and understanding of the issue. You think cause you read stuff on the internet you have the slightest clue as to whats going on over here?
How often in you sort stent that you lived in America did you work with mixed races here in America?
How often did you talk about thing with real people and talk about the real issues. Did you ever visit a black community?
Where in America did you live and how long did you live there?
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It's not off topic. It's pointing out your numerous logical fallacies and lack of objectivity and awareness of the topics of which you speak, and especially your confirmation bias.
My point is that your views of the black community are severely inaccurate, misinformed, and lacking of objectivity, and your prior posts help prove this.
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