Well, duh. All I'm saying is that Suicide Squad isn't going to be all ages (and shouldn't), which will hinder it to making big bucks, especially if it's a rated R. Even if it's PG 13, kids won't flock to this. So making 200-300 million will be a big win, IMO.
TIH was mediocre in terms of successful Marvel. That's why it's barely acknowledge. Doing TIH numbers isn't that good unless WB can keep marketing and production cost down. This thing will have to do way better than TIH. It won't be Rated R. WB needs as big an audience as possible to make this a success and expand their universe. No way will this be Rated R.
It all depends on how they market the movie, but Suicide Squad isn't kid friendly. GOTG was kid friendly. It was huge. If the production budget is low AND it makes 200-300 Million, then yes, it's a hit. We don't even know what the budget is, so it's impossible to say now.
They do overspend on their Dc properties. Look at the ridiculous budget they spent on such a risky property like Green Lantern. That wasn't far off from the Avengers budget!
They will need to make 400m+ww to make a profit considering their history of overspending on budget and marketing. I mean just the 5 A list actors alone are going to cost money. That kind of figure would also be required to even start competition with Marvel studios who have not had any movies grossing below $600mill ww in Phase 2. And my guess would be that nothing they do grosses below $700mill ww in Phase 3.
That was one movie, dude. No studio is perfect. I said on average. WB does more than super hero movies. All Suicide Squad needs to do is turn a profit to green light a sequel.
GL and SR are enough examples considering aside from Batman, there's not been much else in terms of big budget DC movies.
But on new properties they really shouldn't spend more than $150mill. And then not go crazy on the marketing budget either. Then all it would need is something like $300mill+WW to break even.
Edit- Whilst a big name like Wonder Woman needs good fan reaction and $400mill+WW. Because honestly if they can't make a big hit out of WW then what's the point in their whole slate?
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Big name super heroes are known to have high budgets, though. It's expected. Just look at what Sony has done with Spider-Man in the past. 200 plus budget. Every studio markets the hell out of them. As long as they turn a profit (and they usually do), then it's ok. Both TDK and TDKR made 1billion plus and we're not even counting DVD sales.
I doubt Suicide Squad's budget is going to be 200 plus, but if it does, that's crazy.
Guardians and Cap's budget was 170 million each. SS should be below that.
I agree with Wonder Woman, though. But I can easily see WW being more than 400 Million. If done right, she can easily do Thor numbers. If WW gets around 450 Million her first movie, that will be a success.
Actually Sam Ramai's first Spider-Man and Batman Begins had budgets of around $140mill and $150mill. And those are big names as well. And the first X-Men only had a budget of $77mill!
Once they knew they were making money they put more money into the sequels.
GOTG could afford a big budget because Marvel studios have made so much profit from other movies.
That's exactly what happened in the Nolan film as well, so they didn't really overspend. Crappy ones like Jonah wasn't a bloated budget, either so really the only ones that were was Green Lantern and Superman Returns.
Who knows what the budget will be like with suicide squad. I doubt they'll spend as much as Green Lantern.
Man of Steel's budget is $225 million while Avengers was $220 million. Christ, DC probably spent most of that money in the depiction of Earth and Metropolis being destroyed. They could have save tens of millions by cutting down half of that destruction and likely still would have had epic battles that satisfied fans.
DC should look for talent that fits the role and not 5 A-list stars. Marvel picks B-list actors from the start and groom them to stardom. B-talents and unknowns are gold mines; you get talents at a discount.
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