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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'm not. You simply do not understand the inside joke (for me and Skillz at least), and therefore should not voice your opinion on it.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Ooo, is Cary () mad? You must calm your anger to raise that baby girl.
Numerous of KMC's old time debaters have been debating this issue for a while now in other topics. That was there findings:

"You make connections through the Force, and it resonates with those who travel with you. The resonance is even greater when they, too, are Force sensitive. Your actions affect others more than you know. You draw others to you, especially those strong in the Force. When you suffer, their spirit echoes it. And when they are in pain, their pain becomes yours. [...] It is what allows them to prey on Force users, to become stronger when Force Sensitives are near."
--The Jedi Council (Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords)

Your argument is she was weakened on Nathema by staying there for several months. You can eternally never speak.

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Originally posted by Based
There's no specification of a certain distance to not be affected by her companions. After all she was able to feel Kreia losing her hand even though she had gone solo to face Sion. And that was her first and only bond, I'm sure she still had the help of her companions who were still somewhat nearby.




It's a theory at best however solid it is. It's not irrefutable. I'm pretty sure Meetra spoke nothing about the dark side effects of DK, and certainly didn't mention of being weakened as a result.

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Originally posted by Selenial
That quote... Says nothing against what I said. Like at all.

And I said days, and in conceded that I was wrong. Have you never made a mistake oh exalted one? In my defense, who the **** can tolerate reading that steaming pile of turd more than once..??

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Originally posted by Selenial
That quote... Says nothing against what I said. Like at all.

And I said days, and in conceded that I was wrong. Have you never made a mistake oh exalted one? In my defense, who the **** can tolerate reading that steaming pile of turd more than once..??

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I thought you were disagreeing with the theory. Nvm then.

Very well, and I agree. I played KotOR 2 directly before reading the book (as a female character), and I was pissed to see how they totally trashed by character.

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Originally posted by Selenial


**** it, I'll accept that, I take what I can get.

Which theory? The companion one? I do disagree with that, Because she still had her force bond with Traya even and there was no mention of that, the companions were way too far away too. Handmaiden probably had the force potential of top 20 Jedi/Sith, so just her giving Meetra power would have put Meetra above levels where 3 Jedi can sever her.

They need to have a greater command of the force together to do it, if she was able to draw on her companions from so far, including one of the most powerful Sith in history, said Sith's daughter, an assassin that was the sole survivor of Nilus etc, that simply wouldn't happen.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
I wouldn't say they were shit. They just never really showed much. Or.... anything.

But Handmaiden's potential in the top 20? I can't remember anything suggesting that.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I don't understand your point. Your saying Meetra would be too OP if she was drawing off the connections of her companions? Most of her companions were shit.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
and her mother's power is unknown.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
@Neph Meh, they were pretty shit, besides HK and Canderous (Kreia not included).

Her father was "quicky" beat by Darth Revan, and her mother's power is unknown. I fail to grasp how she makes Top 20 also.

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Originally posted by Selenial
Nah it's just the Heritage shit, and I guess that she was Grandmaster for so long... I dunno, you'd just expect that kind of level from the daughter of perhaps the best non-force using blade master and one of the galaxy's strongest Sith.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, I guess. Though we don't really know to what degree the Exile drew upon their strength. Enough to be notable, but not noticeable I'd think. They never seemed to suffer from her leeching.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It's unconfirmed if her mother was Darth Traya.


You are trying to make sense in the game where the plot was a Sith Lord was trying to destroy the Force. Just go with what you got.

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Originally posted by Selenial
"Perhaps I am just an old woman, who has come to despise what most she relies upon"

If you think that was the plot, come back and discuss it with me once you've hit and surpassed puberty.

And no, it's pretty much confirmed.

Arren Kae was first and last teacher to Revan, so was Traya.
Thought dead in the Mando wars. "I thought you had died in the Mandalorian wars"
Kreia? "That is not her name"
It is said that master Kae had nothing left to teach him, but how to leave the order itself. "I taught him how to leave the order"

That, and Avellone saying he was expressly forbidden from ever confirming or denying it.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I didn't mean the entire plot, I meant the ending, which was true. Darth Traya took her to the heart of Malachor V to kill her, which would apparently destroy the Force.

It's not confirmed if Kreia is Arren Kae in official canon, just all speculation.